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Old 06-07-2012, 03:05 PM   #1
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Installing a Ceiling Fan using an existing switched outlet


My husband and I would like to add a ceiling fan/light combo in an upstairs room where there is currently only a switch connected to an existing outlet on the other side of the room. The problem we're running into is how do we run the electrical wiring if we wish to utilize the wiring from the receptacle to the ceiling fan, not the switch to the ceiling fan. If we were to use the wiring from the switch, we would have to fish wire through several ceiling joists (not an ideal solution). Additionally, we would like to utilize 14/3 wire from the ceiling/fan light combo to the receptacle so that we may use a light/fan wall switch. Some basic information follows:

After I'm done, I would like the currently switched receptacle to be always hot, independent of the switch.
There is not an accessible attic above this room.
It would be easier to fish a new cable from the ceiling to the receptacle.
The switch and the receptacle are both on an exterior wall.
The switch currently controls only the bottom half of the duplex receptacle.
There is a white wire connected to one of the screws on the switch.

Some background on us. My husbands is very capable of using fishtape to run the wiring needed down to the receptacle, regardless of the lack of attic access. I would classify him as having above average electrical skills (but not that of a professional electrician.) If anyone could provide a wiring schematic, it would be ideal.

Thanks in advance for your solid advice.

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If you can get a 14/3 to the receptacle, connect it to the unswitched wires, you are okay-assuming load is okay- and pull chains are acceptable.

The white wire on switch means that it is a switch leg connection and not suitable for feeding a ceiling fan. No Neutral.

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Can you get a 14/2 from receptacle to fan and 14/3 from fan to new switch location? No pull chains then.
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another avenue to travel is just to buy a remote for the fan and find a 120v power supply in the attic to feed the fan.
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another avenue to travel is just to buy a remote for the fan and find a 120v power supply in the attic to feed the fan.
And you comply with motor disconnect rules how?
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And you comply with motor disconnect rules how?
Circuit breaker can serve as the disconnecting means....
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My husband pulled the switch and there is no white wire connected to the back. The switched receptacle has a white and red wire to the upper, and white and black on the lower.
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Can you get a 14/2 from receptacle to fan and 14/3 from fan to new switch location? No pull chains then.
No, there is no way for us to run a 14/3 to the existing switch.

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