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Carandorandy 02-02-2011 02:27 PM

Industrial Electrical Enclosures Colors. Safety Orange?
 
We have built a “Rittal” brand enclosure going to Europe and are looking for the lawful color standards here in the states because it is being built here and it must first be passed here before satisfying the customer and their regulations from what I understand.
So any help would be appreciated on knowledge of color standards or regulations for enclosure doors.
Thanks Randy S.

Speedy Petey 02-02-2011 05:52 PM

What about grey? :whistling2:

You are the manufacturer. Shouldn't you know this?

Carandorandy 02-02-2011 06:25 PM

Carandorandy reply
 
We have been making machines for 80 years and we have always painted the covers Safety Orange. But the owner of the company says he want some kind of proof. All I'm asking is there written rule that I can find in the NEC or Nema or Osha codes that I can refer to.

If you are a licensed contractor, could'nt you just give me a reference or are you just have fun with me?

brric 02-02-2011 06:49 PM

Licensed contractors are not manufacturers.

Carandorandy 02-02-2011 07:05 PM

Same
 
It sounds like Licensed Contractors don't know much and can't read.
Is there any Real Industrial Electricians out there that would like to help?
Carandorandy

brric 02-02-2011 07:11 PM

You're demeaning us for not knowing something you should know? Must be a right-wing republican.

Speedy Petey 02-02-2011 07:19 PM

CandyRandy, are you for real?
You make the stuff, we just install it.

You have been manufacturing things for 80 years a certain way, yet you don't know WHY you have been doing it this way? Now someone wants you to prove it, and you can't, and you insult US because of it????

You are some piece of work.

Speedy Petey 02-02-2011 07:21 PM

The internet is HUGE, yet you come to a DIY message board to ask about designing and building industrial equipment? WHY NOT go to the source genius???

OSHA, UL, NFPA, all have web sites and codes online.

Carandorandy 02-02-2011 07:54 PM

Listen I was very nice on the first two replys. You guys were smart asses from the beginning. Since we can all agree that we're all butt heads. Lets start over. I apollogies. I was keeping the first message short because if it's to long, my experience is that it won't get read. The company I work for builds fully automated machines and for the last 8 years they did not have one electrician here untill I arrived last year/2010. They contracted electrical help and they were not that good. I know because I have been doing electrical work for more than 30 years but did not have to engineer any of it. Regardless I know it's good ( safety orange ) but you know trying to search the simple things is sometimes the hardest. I did spend about 2 hrs googleing, I have two engineers from past employers looking for me, I have a fine looking girl in the office researching and the question is becomming a monster. So Thanks for replying anyway.
Carandorandy.

Jackofall1 02-02-2011 08:19 PM

I have been in the industrial installations and controls business for many years, the external panel colors are specific to the buyers specification, there is no NEMA, NEC, OSHA codes applicable.

Paint it pink if you want.


Mark

PS There is a huge difference between an electrician and a controls experienced electrician, you really should know that, if you don't then I would say you haven't been around very long at all.

Charlie K. 02-02-2011 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carandorandy (Post 583484)
Listen I was very nice on the first two replys. You guys were smart asses from the beginning. Since we can all agree that we're all butt heads. Lets start over. I apollogies. I was keeping the first message short because if it's to long, my experience is that it won't get read. The company I work for builds fully automated machines and for the last 8 years they did not have one electrician here untill I arrived last year/2010. They contracted electrical help and they were not that good. I know because I have been doing electrical work for more than 30 years but did not have to engineer any of it. Regardless I know it's good ( safety orange ) but you know trying to search the simple things is sometimes the hardest. I did spend about 2 hrs googleing, I have two engineers from past employers looking for me, I have a fine looking girl in the office researching and the question is becomming a monster. So Thanks for replying anyway.
Carandorandy.

No color requirement per NEC. Are you a UL shop? If you have been an electrician for 30 years you should know this. For craps sake this is a DIY forum!

williswires 02-02-2011 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackofall1 (Post 583506)
I have been in the industrial installations and controls business for many years, the external panel colors are specific to the buyers specification, there is no NEMA, NEC, OSHA codes applicable.

Paint it pink if you want.


Mark

I agree. No color requirements. However, I would be more concerned with the electrical info/hazard labeling, disconnect (if present), and other UL508A requirements.

Speedy Petey 02-02-2011 10:01 PM

If you are still around checking this, I'll say I don't know the answer for fact. All I know is I have never seen a control/panel box in other than a shades of grey, tan or white.
So there must not be any special requirements other than job specific. Hell, I have seen them in bare stainless.

frenchelectrican 02-25-2011 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy Petey (Post 583598)
If you are still around checking this, I'll say I don't know the answer for fact. All I know is I have never seen a control/panel box in other than a shades of grey, tan or white.
So there must not be any special requirements other than job specific. Hell, I have seen them in bare stainless.


I do not know why I miss this part however in European side the panel colour it basically the same as USA is the only diffrence that is we have to have international warning label and for interal parts it will depending on which area it will go and their specfic codes it will required.

Merci.
Marc

Leah Frances 02-25-2011 05:02 PM

I sense a Troll. No one can be this obnoxious and expect people to help them.


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