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Old 09-24-2011, 08:06 PM   #31
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Internal panel is a 16/24. I actually have the cover off in the picture, I was inspecting his work. It's not live right now.
Hey guys, is that a common bonding jumper? I just never saw it done that way

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Old 09-24-2011, 08:07 PM   #32
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Is that the panel bond screw in the neutral bar?

Is that a home made jumper across the neutral busses?
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Old 09-24-2011, 08:10 PM   #33
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This is a disgrace. He should be embarrassed
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Old 09-24-2011, 08:13 PM   #34
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Hey guys, is that a common bonding jumper? I just never saw it done that way
That is because it is not done that way. Note the size of the jumper compared to the neutral.

If it is a factory bar it would be okay.

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Old 09-24-2011, 08:26 PM   #35
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That green-looking screw needs to be removed. It may not have been tightened down, but in any case, it should not be present.

The siding was a hack job. A decent siding block (or 2 in this case) would have gone a long way to ensure the job looked better:




2 of those stacked up would have done the trick, with the built-in "j" channel making it a 1st class installation.
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That green-looking screw needs to be removed. It may not have been tightened down, but in any case, it should not be present.

The siding was a hack job. A decent siding block (or 2 in this case) would have gone a long way to ensure the job looked better:




2 of those stacked up would have done the trick, with the built-in "j" channel making it a 1st class installation.
Yeah, that would have been best.

You familiar with Siemens panels? Is that a factory jumper?
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Sometimes it's not a good idea to go with the lowest bidder huh "laughing"
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...You familiar with Siemens panels? Is that a factory jumper?
Yes, it is. In fact, one could have removed that jumper, put the green screw on the other side, and not needed an additional equipment grounding bar.

But, since they did install a separate EG bar, the jumper can remain, making both sides for neutral wires.

But now that green screw has to go.
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Yes, it is. In fact, one could have removed that jumper, put the green screw on the other side, and not needed an additional equipment grounding bar.

But, since they did install a separate EG bar, the jumper can remain, making both sides for neutral wires.

But now that green screw has to go.
Strange, a copper jumper in an all AL panel.

Yeah, I would have done the same: 1 lug is cheaper than a ground bar.

I thought screw was the panel bond, but could not tell if was really green on my screen.

This "electrician" is real winner-not.

That siding is gonna be a PITA to fix.
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Thanks for all the comments. I think I understood most of what you are saying. The mounting panel looks nice. Sigh...

He wasn't even the low bidder. I had a neighbor bid who was lower, but he took forever to bid and I was all setup, appointments, etc. so I went with this guy. Turns out the neighbor has a good reputation doing commercial work, and he is good friends with the owner of another company that does lots of residences in my area. He came over and looked at the job and felt pity for me. I could see it in his eyes. He said I would've been better off with either of the other bids.

It's true. I am humbled.

Only thing I didn't understand was this comment:

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Yeah, I would have done the same: 1 lug is cheaper than a ground bar.
Anyone care to explain? What's "1 lug" mean?
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Anyone care to explain? What's "1 lug" mean?
Look at where the large wires are terminated. Those are lugs. You can add one to a buss.
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Just goes to show ya, if the ac guy doesn't get you, sparky will....
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As to the sub-panel…
The ‘Angel wings’ the {eh-hem} “installer” put in the wires of the feeder before they enter the lugs…having them ~6 inches shorter would look nicer and more professional.
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It look little sloppy when someone bring the cable in however there one thing I learn long time ago I don't use the same hole for SE-R and NM cable and also to be on safe side you should have nail plate on it for extra safety mesure in case someone try to drive long arse screw or nail even thru you are centred on the stud { that can happend once a while.}

For the outdoor all in one box I wil spend little extra time to make it neat not that sloppy like you posted in the photo.

Oh yeah.,, get rid of vert ( green ) screw

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Good eye Marc.

Also, hard to tell, but it looks like the romex connector on the 10/3 in the sub-panel is missing the lock-nut??

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