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Old 09-24-2011, 04:32 PM   #16
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To the OP: How about some pix of the workmanship that you are not satisfied with?

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I have attached some pictures of the what I think is the worst of it. This helps keep it objective...

The orange cable is a 10/3 he ran to the side of the house off a 30 AMP double pole for a future shed.
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Old 09-24-2011, 04:49 PM   #18
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I have attached some pictures of the what I think is the worst of it. This helps keep it objective...

The orange cable is a 10/3 he ran to the side of the house off a 30 AMP double pole for a future shed.
Wow!! Some people really need to find a new occupation if your going to be that careless about your work
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Yup, that piece of wire has multiple nicks and scrapes in its sheath.

It looks like type SE-R cable. Do you have a disconnect box next to the meter outside?

How about a pic of the damage to the siding? I'm thinking he should have used an Arlington siding block to mount the meter box on?
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Yup, real hack work.

You say that runs from the meter pan to the main panel? If so that's the wrong cable.
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Here's some of the meter box and trim. It's a meter with a disconnect.

What's a siding block? Because he didn't put anything down. There was some metal sheeting under the old one. When he cut into the siding for the bigger box, it went above the metal sheeting/backing, but he didn't put more sheeting on, just mounted it onto the side of the house after cutting the siding.

Is this still the wrong cable? Should that be okay?
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That job looks like crapola. I would complain/argue/fight/sue. Inspector ain't be happy with that cable or siding at all.
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Are the straps on the metal conduit connected?

What is your grounding electrode system?

I see the telco weenie put his ground in the wrong spot.
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Code05: I am not sure what straps you mean. The grounding straps or the straps holding the conduit to the house? The straps holding the conduit to the house are connected to the house okay, though the strap is the wrong size.

He did bring in a new 5/8" grounding electrode and installed it. He left it sticking out of the ground, I had to pound it in another 4" and bury it properly.

Should I move my telco ground?

Thanks everyone for your comments. I'll certainly be seeking recourse. Pain, here I come...
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Is this still the wrong cable? Should that be okay?
The cable is correct. Nasty, but correct.
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Code05: I am not sure what straps you mean. The grounding straps or the straps holding the conduit to the house? The straps holding the conduit to the house are connected to the house okay, though the strap is the wrong size.
I was talking about the straps holding the conduit.

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He did bring in a new 5/8" grounding electrode and installed it. He left it sticking out of the ground, I had to pound it in another 4" and bury it properly.
You only have 1 ground rod and nothing else?

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Should I move my telco ground?
I think I was wrong.

800.100(B)(2)(4) The metallic power service raceway

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Good luck, crap like this sux.
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The electrician was supposed to install an a ground bar for telco grounds.

2008 NEC

250.94 Bonding for Other Systems. An intersystem
bonding termination for connecting intersystem bonding
and grounding conductors required for other systems shall
be provided external to enclosures at the service equipment
and at the disconnecting means for any additional buildings
or structures. The intersystem bonding termination shall be
accessible for connection and inspection. The intersystem
bonding termination shall have the capacity for connection
of not less than three intersystem bonding conductors. The
intersystem bonding termination device shall not interfere
with opening a service or metering equipment enclosure.
The intersystem bonding termination shall be one of the
following:
(1) A set of terminals securely mounted to the meter enclosure
and electrically connected to the meter enclosure.
The terminals shall be listed as grounding and bonding
equipment.
(2) A bonding bar near the service equipment enclosure,
meter enclosure, or raceway for service conductors.
The bonding bar shall be connected with a minimum
6 AWG copper conductor to an equipment grounding
conductor(s) in the service equipment enclosure, meter
enclosure, or exposed nonflexible metallic raceway.
(3) A bonding bar near the grounding electrode conductor.
The bonding bar shall be connected to the grounding
electrode conductor with a minimum 6 AWG copper
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Post a picture of the inside panel.
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Internal panel is a 16/24. I actually have the cover off in the picture, I was inspecting his work. It's not live right now.
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Is that the panel bond screw in the neutral bar?

Is that a home made jumper across the neutral busses?

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