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Old 06-07-2012, 05:43 PM   #1
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How to wire a 2nd light independently?


I wired a hanging pendant lamp to the red/black wires in a ceiling junction box, to which I also wired a fluorescent ceiling light fixture (activated by a wall switch). But when I turn the wall switch off, the pendant lamp goes off. No good! I need the pendant lamp to stay on all the time (it gets shut off by a remote control).

How can I wire it within the junction box, so that the pendant lamp will stay on, while the fluorescent light fixture can be switched on/off as normal? (I do not wish to plug the pendant lamp into a duplex outlet, as it would run ugly wires across the ceiling and down the wall).

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Are there any other wires in the j box ?
Other than the two you used.

If there is not,
then you cannot do what you want
without running another hot line.

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Are there any other wires in the j box ?
Other than the two you used.

If there is not,
then you cannot do what you want
without running another hot line.
In the j box, there are a few neutral (white) wires. There is at least one red, and perhaps 2 black wires.
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Can you test the black wires ?
Tell if and when they are on !
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Can you test the black wires ?
Tell if and when they are on !
Yeah, I was going to do that - see if any of the wires register 120v when the power is on, but the wall switch is off. I was just wanted to know if what I would like to do is impossible, so I can avoid having to take the light fixture down again for nothing. But yeah, I guess taking it down is the only way to tell for sure....
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UPDATE: Doh! That was it. I just had to look a little harder in the j box, and test the voltage on the various wires. There was an extra set of black wires, and by connecting the pendant lamp's wires to the black wire going to the fluorescent fixture and to the extra set of black wires, I was able to get a constant 118v voltage, regardless of the switch position on the wall. This allowed me to use the remote control wireless lamp holder installed on the pendant, to be able to switch it on/off independently of the fluorescent ceiling fixture nearby. Thanks for the encouragement!


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Yeah, I was going to do that - see if any of the wires register 120v when the power is on, but the wall switch is off. I was just wanted to know if what I would like to do is impossible, so I can avoid having to take the light fixture down again for nothing. But yeah, I guess taking it down is the only way to tell for sure....

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