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Old 12-09-2009, 03:47 PM   #1
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We have an Electrical range in the kitchen , it is 220V. We wish to change to a new Gas cooking range. I am able to draw a gas line to kitchen. The problem is to get a 110v outlet needed for the gas range. We have 220v for old electrical range. How to convert???

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Old 12-09-2009, 04:03 PM   #2
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How many wires feed the stove ?
For 120v you need black or red hot, white neutral & a green/bare ground

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Does the existing wires have 3 or 4 wires? If is a 4 wire then it should be as easy as using 1 of the hots (black or red), the neutral (white), and the ground. You may have to splice a #12 wire in the box to terminate on receptacle. You will also have to remove the 2 pole breaker feeding the existing range and replace with a single pole using whichever wire you used as hot on the receptacle and Wire nutting off the other inside panel.
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presently 4 wires. i do not need 220v supply in future in the kitchen. i need to draw a 11ov line there
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Should be easy. Just remember to use a 20 amp single pole breaker in place of the 2 pole breaker feeding the circuit now. You will also need to fill the blank space created when you remove the 2 pole breaker, just pick up a space filler that will fit your panel type.
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Does the existing wires have 3 or 4 wires? If is a 4 wire then it should be as easy as using 1 of the hots (black or red), the neutral (white), and the ground. You may have to splice a #12 wire in the box to terminate on receptacle. You will also have to remove the 2 pole breaker feeding the existing range and replace with a single pole using whichever wire you used as hot on the receptacle and Wire nutting off the other inside panel.

There is no need to replace the breaker. the new plug must be rated for the amperage of the circuit though. it may be 50 amps you could replace with a smaller 2 pole or single pole. in any case you should wirenut any bare wires on both sides.

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There is no need to replace the breaker. the new plug must be rated for the amperage of the circuit though. it may be 50 amps you could replace with a smaller 2 pole or single pole. in any case you should wirenut any bare wires on both sides.
Read the original post. The original circuit was for an electric range. The new circuit is for a gas range. How can you say the breaker will not need to be replaced?
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I recomend leaving the 220VAC in place and un-used, and to install a new 20A 120VAC circuit to power the clock and controls of the new gas range.

Someday in the future you, or a subsequent owner, may want an electric oven with gas cooktop, or an all electric range. Leaving the 220V untouched costs no money, installing it again in the future will be a much greater cost.

Just my opinion.
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Read the original post. The original circuit was for an electric range. The new circuit is for a gas range. How can you say the breaker will not need to be replaced?
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Umm, show me where you cannot use one side of a 2 pole breaker in the NEC. If you actually read my post i also stated that he will not be able to use a 30 or 50 amp breaker with a standard 120vac outlet.

He should really follow the advice Mi-Rodger and install a new outlet. That's what i would do.

However if its only a 30 amp circuit he may be able to get away with it. i don't have any outlet instructions handy but they will specify a max wire size. 30A is 10AWG if he's using a 50A it could be as big as 6AWG depending on wiring type used . Keep in mind like i said before you can wire a max 20A breaker to power a duplex recpt. (single recpt only 15A). 2 pole 1 pole does not matter.
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There is no need to replace the breaker. the new plug must be rated for the amperage of the circuit though. it may be 50 amps
ummmm...show me where you can put a 120v 20a residential outlet on a 30a or 50a breaker

Possibly a 240v 20a stove exist...I've never seen one
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ummmm...show me where you can put a 120v 20a residential outlet on a 30a or 50a breaker

Possibly a 240v 20a stove exist...I've never seen one
Ditto. The post was confusing and incorrect. That's why people are challenging it.
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Ditto. The post was confusing and incorrect. That's why people are challenging it.
google NEMA 5-50R or 5-30R (nobody has said what the amperage of the circuit is yet). Reread my post carefully, where i explain that they will need a correctly sized outlet, reread where i said you don't "necessarily" need to change the breaker. If you still think i'm wrong quote me the section of the nec that i would be violating. I'm working off the 2008
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There is no need to replace the breaker
Show me a 20a 240v electric stove, even 30a can't have household outlets on it
So no, you can't "get away with it"
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the new plug must be rated for the amperage of the circuit though. it may be 50 amps you could replace with a smaller 2 pole or single pole.
you can take anything you want out of context and make it say something it does not.

And the "get a away with it" comment was directed toward being able to fit 10awg wire on the terminals of a 20A and still comply with the manufactures instructions.....Another requirement of the NEC. In this situation you would obviously have to use a 20 or 15 amp breaker. It could still be 2 pole....

Arguing with you people has annoyed me enough to come up with a different way for him to do this. This way requires no messing with the breaker box at all.

Buy one of these
http://www.stayonline.com/detail.aspx?ID=4751
Its a NEMA 15-30P (for 50a you need 15-50P)
EDIT: you might need a 14-30p or 14-50p if you post a picture i'll tell you which one.

For 30A use 14/3 SJO cord
For 50A use 12/3 SJO cord
rewire to the back of the stove
Permitted under NEC 2008 240.5 (B)(2) (4) or (6). 30A or 50A respectively
That is assuming the stove is UL listed.(It is)
that it i'm done

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