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Old 02-18-2009, 06:51 PM   #1
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How to install a Leviton timmer for bathroom!?


My knowledge in electrical is very minimal, But was wondering if its possible to install a Leviton timer in our bathroom, I took the face plate off and have 2 switches, One for the light, the other to turn on the fan.

I bought this timer which has 4 colored wires (White, black, blue and green) So figured I might just be able to follow the instructions on the manual but once I looked inside my box I got confused, Each side has a white and black wire coming from the upper section, so 2 of each (thus 2 switches) but on both switches only the black wires are connected and the whites are capped. Any ideas what's going on, I may just have an electrician come over to help, But is it even possible with this setup?

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Old 02-18-2009, 07:03 PM   #2
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What is the model number of the timer? Some electronic timers require a neutral connection(the white wire). The white should connect to the capped neutrals and the black and blue will connect to the black wires that are currently connected to the switch(one to one). Green is ground.


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Modle # NO.6230M

It has 4 settings, Its a 5-10-15-30 minute timer, It lights up to which time its set for.

I got it from home depot but found a link on E-bay, this is it here
http://cgi.ebay.com/LEVITON-6230M-5-...3A1%7C294%3A50
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Modle # NO.6230M

It has 4 settings, Its a 5-10-15-30 minute timer, It lights up to which time its set for.

I got it from home depot but found a link on E-bay, this is it here
http://cgi.ebay.com/LEVITON-6230M-5-...3A1%7C294%3A50
The switch should have a connection sheet with it. You are going to have to determine which black wire is the line/incoming hot and which one goes to the fan/load. The typical configuation is:

Black-Line
Blue-Load/fan
White-Neutral
Green-ground

Can you take a picture of the box with the cover plate off?
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When you say the whites are capped, does that mean to each other or just indivually capped.
Tell all the wires and how they are connected in the switch box.
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Fan timers are smart




You have two wires attached to your existing switch. One is hot (coming from a short pigtail from the power source) Attach this one to the black.

The other one is the switch leg (going up to the fan). Attach this to the blue.


White to whites (neutral)

Green to bares (ground)

Make you connections tight.
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I can take a picture for you guys but dont know where to upload it, Anyone know some free fast hosts?

The wires are as such

For the fan, there are 2 black wires and 2 white wires coming down, and one copper wire, The only thing connecting the fan switch are 2 black wires, the whites from the box are not connected to anything I dont think, and are all capped, meaning not going anywhere except one of those yellow caps (Not sure if thats what you call them) the same set up is on the light switch beside the fan switch.

So basically I just need to connect those 2 black wires that are connected to the existing switch to the new one, I just need to figure out which on is hot? and then connect the blue to the ground wire? and thats it?

I will try and get a picture up
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Are the white all connected to each othe with a wire nut? If they are then-
The green wire connects to the bare.
The white wire connects to the other whites.
The black connects to one of the blacks.
The blue connects to the other black.
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For the fan, there are 2 black wires and 2 white wires coming down, and one copper wire,
OK. The story has changed a bit. Typically your light would be on the same circuit as rhe fan but apparently not in your case.

One set of wires (black/white) is the incoming 120 volts. The other set of wires go to the fan.

You need to find out which is the hot and attach it to the black on the switch. The other one goes to blue and white to white. Green to bare .


One copper???? should be two....maybe pigtailed into one??

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just need to figure out which on is hot? and then connect the blue to the ground wire? and thats it?
Crap dude...focus.

GREEN= ground, blue=switch leg (power to the fan).

Hook the blue to the ground and you will literally blow up the switch.

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Please send a case of whatever your drinking to PO box 56 Ottawa Kansas...I'll pay the shipping....

If you still can't.. focus....on what 221 and Joed and JerryH3 are saying I will provide a diagram for you..... no charge

Identify the black wire that is always hot on the switch with a voltage tester. The other one on the switch is the switchleg or switched power...it goes to BLUE

The always hot goes to the black on the timer.

GREEN goes to bare.

WHITE ..goes to the other whites...and pay attention here...the white for the timer goes to the whites that are in the same cables that have the blacks on the fan switch.

Once you determine what you have TURN THE POWER OFF at the breaker and make your connections. If you had pizza for dinner set the timer on 30.
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Bah, Ok, So I cut the power and walked into my bathroom hoping to "get er done" But after taking off the face plate, I notice there are 2 black wires connected to the upper screw on the existing fan switch and one black wire connected to the lower screw, thats 3 black wires, Yet at the back of the box where the wires come in, there are 2 whites, 2 blacks and one copper for each side (One for the fan switch and one for the light switch) So is that other black wire coming from the light switch? It would have been Soooo much easier if the wires were color coordinated :s
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The screw with two black it probably the power feed. Where did the other black go to? I bet it went to the other switch to power the light.
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I dont know how that have it set up, I should prolly just take it apart and see, But as it is now, There are 2 black wires on the top screw and one on the bottom for the fan switch, and on the light switch, there is one black wire on the top and one black on the bottom (Yup, thats 5 blacks) So Im at a loss :p

again, all the whites are all connected with a wire nut
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I dont know how that have it set up, I should prolly just take it apart and see, But as it is now, There are 2 black wires on the top screw and one on the bottom for the fan switch, and on the light switch, there is one black wire on the top and one black on the bottom (Yup, thats 5 blacks) So Im at a loss :p

again, all the whites are all connected with a wire nut
Does one of the blacks run from one switch to the other? Actually this may work out better for you. You'll be able to wire nut these two wires to the black of the dimmer.
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Jerry and Joe are giving you what you need to know. Make these connections

1.) Take the two wires connected to the same screw on the fan switch and take the black of the timer ....put these 3 wires in a wirenut.

2.) Take the blue of the timer and connect it to the other black wire on the switch.

3.) Take the white of the timer and connect it with the other whites. You said they are all in one wirenut. so just add the white of the timer to those whites.

4. Connect the green to the bare ground wires.

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