Originally Posted by Stubbie
Then maybe you should install them according to the manufacturers directions and stop twisting them around. You are certainly entitled to your opinion.. however ..They are a listed and accepted connection in your country and mine and I dare say the people who allowed the listing were a tad bit more qualified than you or I and did not consider them gimicky. Be aware that these people also are all too aware of the poor backstab design of the past.
Do tell......funny thats exactly what they are supposed to do in order for replacement.
7 grounds are not easy for a homeowner to put in a wirenut.... you know this as well as anybody here.
1) Dont twist them around? Im talking about when reno's are done or say changing a ballast the wires and moved/twisted around
2) The packaging for these type of product even says DO NOT REUSE (@least the ones ive seen from our suppliers up here. Once you twist the wire too much and it comes loose the SPRING of the metal in the cube is useless (FIRE HAZARD, since it wont hold/lost its retentivity)
3) When you say the guys who designed it know better, my boss of a fairly big electrical company showed the supplier the "5 twists and the wire coming out" and explained the problems. The supplier rep made sure to write all that down and agreed it was a hazard