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Old 01-22-2011, 04:18 PM   #1
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Hi and thanks,
We are remodeling and moving some outlets and came across this little issue...I have included a very crude sketch but would like to know how to clean this up..

I am assuming someone did this instead of driving to the store to get the right part .. this is 4 seperate switches. .

All this controls 1 motion detector flood light by the garage.. only the bottom right switch turns the light off and on regardless of what position the other switches are in ...

The metal connector tab on the left switch is removed

How do I clean this up?

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If in the same box, the red would be treated as the White. Just unhook both switches, and connect the black from the light to the top of a Single Pole Switch, and the black from the hot feed to the bottom of the light switch. Connect the White from the hot feed to the Red going to the light. Now of course if it is 12/3 or 14/3 coming from the light to the switch, just connect the whites together, and leave the red alone and cap on both sides.

Just noticed that it is either 12/3 or 14/3 coming in, which means that you need to find the other end, and unhook the red and cap. Now of course, you could use the red in your favor and use a outlet next to the switch if both switches are in the same box. Post a picture of said switches.

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UPDATED PICTURE:

My apologies but the RED coming from the white to the switch is actually a WHITE wire .. I forgot to change the color .. here it is changed below.

Does that affect anything?

ANd not to go in depth but why the heck would someone do this in the first place?
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As stated before, cap the red, find the other end and cap. All you need for the light is a White & Black. Who ever wired that up was a moron. If you still want to use the red, then get a GCFI outlet, and do a pigtail off of the White, so that you can connect the white for the light, and feed, and have a white for the outlet. Black would be as stated before, the black from the light connects to the top half a 15a single pole switch, and the black from the hot feed would go to the bottom screw of the switch.

Post a real picture of where the 3 wire feed is coming from, and the switch box in question.
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Thanks Greg ... tell me where to send the check ..

I just unhooked all the wires and turned the power on to test them ...

The WHITE one from the source is the hot one .. I thought it should have been the black one...

Based on knowing that .. same advice?
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Go find out where the feed comes from, and then keep going to the next junction to straighten it all out, so that the White is the Neutral, and the Black is the feed from the breaker. This may not be the only screwed up junction, you may want to check all in the house & garage, and fix any and all code violations.
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how are you measuring this "hot" white wire. non-contact voltage testers are not reliable.
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COwboy.. I went out and purchased a volt meter .. all are at 0 except the WHITE from the bottom of the picture which measures approx 122...
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COwboy.. I went out and purchased a volt meter .. all are at 0 except the WHITE from the bottom of the picture which measures approx 122...
then we have either a switch leg(wired improperly) or more like it A PROBLEM.

Where does the wiring run from here? might need to check panel

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