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Old 08-19-2012, 07:17 AM   #16
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Well, it WAS a failed back-stabbed connection that caused all the problems here in the first place .... just sayin' ...

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Old 08-19-2012, 07:27 AM   #17
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Well, it WAS a failed back-stabbed connection that caused all the problems here in the first place .... just sayin' ...

And this one wasnt back stabbed... just sayin'



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Soooo....failed backstabs are not the only points of failure. Is that the lesson?
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Soooo....failed backstabs are not the only points of failure. Is that the lesson?
Well, considering less then 1% of electricians use a torque screwdriver when installing receptacles, i doubt that connection is any better then backstabbing, for what ever reason, backstabbing just takes the brunt of the failure rate.

In my years in the trade, i've come across just as many incorrectly installed devices with screws as with back stabbed devices, maybe even more actually...
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I completely disagree. I'm not implying that taking your impact to tighten the screws is a good idea, but every backstabbed device I take out looses at least 1 wire when I pull it out of the wall...and its usually the neutral for some reason.
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I completely disagree. I'm not implying that taking your impact to tighten the screws is a good idea, but every backstabbed device I take out looses at least 1 wire when I pull it out of the wall...and its usually the neutral for some reason.
I believe you are over exaggerating your statement, I always have to cut them or insert a skinny screw driver to release the wire.

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