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reeltime 06-25-2012 09:50 AM

Hot to Ground Reverse
 
First time to use this site. Will try to be brief. Here is the problem. My daughter plugged in a hair dryer to a receptacle and all power in room died. Used a tester to check circuit and found a hot-to-ground reverse. I opened 5 receptacles in bedroom and found plugged into back. Changed all to screw mount, no change on tester. Changed first set of light switches (Light and ceiling fan). No change. Changed the second set of light switches in bathroom (Light and exhaust fan). With all switches off the tester showed ok. If a switch was turned on a hot-to-ground reverse signal was issued. I have checked for loose connections within the light switches and did not find anything. I do have a GFCI receptacle ahead of the circuit. I have not checked the wiring or receptacle yet. Any and all help is greatly appreciated.

joed 06-25-2012 11:51 AM

Hot ground reversed is the indication those testers show for an open neutral.

reeltime 06-25-2012 12:51 PM

First thank you for repsonding. I figured that was the problem based off the threads that I have read. I now need to develop a plan to continue troubleshooting, like where to start. Any further thoughts?

Jim Port 06-25-2012 12:58 PM

Look at the last working or first non-working device.

k_buz 06-25-2012 12:59 PM

Did the breaker trip? or did you just loose power?

If not, turn off that circuit and continue moving the wires to the screw terminals. With the breaker off, you should be able to tell what is all on that circuit and what all you need to check.

DangerMouse 06-25-2012 01:09 PM

"That nut is loose, if you do not tighten it, you could lose it."

OH NO! The power is loose! Better catch it!

loose - lose ---- when mixed up, it gets confusing to new members.

DM

DangerMouse 06-25-2012 01:17 PM

...also....

"They're landing their plane over there on runway 3."

DM

frenchelectrican 06-25-2012 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerMouse (Post 951264)
"That nut is loose, if you do not tighten it, you could lose it."

OH NO! The power is loose! Better catch it!

loose - lose ---- when mixed up, it gets confusing to new members.

DM

Then you have to bring the voltage bucket to catch the loose power.


MDR!!! ( LOL !! )

Merci,
Marc

kbsparky 06-25-2012 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reeltime (Post 951247)
First thank you for repsonding. I figured that was the problem based off the threads that I have read. I now need to develop a plan to continue troubleshooting, like where to start. Any further thoughts?

If the clowns :jester: have finished with their tyraids about spelling, etc, here is one plan of action:

With your tester plugged in, find the breaker that controls that circuit. Switch it off, and then take note of everything that is off.

Turn it back on, and then make note of all the outlets that are working normally.

Start with the last working outlet, and the first non-working outlet, and check the electrical connections in those. Proceed outward from there until you find the culprit.

Sometimes you can plug in your tester, and wiggle it back and forth and then the power restores momentarily in the rest of the circuit. If you find an outlet that you can wiggle to restore the rest of them, you have found the offending bad connections that need to be reworked.

DangerMouse 06-25-2012 05:58 PM

ti·rade/ˈtīrād/ Noun: A long, angry speech of criticism or accusation: "a tirade of abuse".

:laughing: :wink:

DM

DangerMouse 06-25-2012 06:20 PM

Okay, okay.... I'm sorry. It's just hard to comprehend some people's posts when they cannot spell, use proper grammar and punctuation, etc.

DM

k_buz 06-25-2012 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DangerMouse (Post 951486)
Okay, okay.... I'm sorry. It's just hard to comprehend some people's posts when they cannot spell, use proper grammar and punctuation, etc.

DM

All the crap that comes out of my mouth and that is what you choose to bust me on? :jester:

DangerMouse 06-26-2012 08:09 AM

wellllllllllll......

DM

reeltime 06-26-2012 09:30 AM

kbuz and kbsparky, thanks for the insight. I will try your suggestions and will let you know the outcome.

reeltime 06-27-2012 04:40 PM

First thing I did was change all outlets and switches, all secured with the screws. I then turned the breaker off and took note of everything on circuit. Turned breaker on and started checking outlets. The outlets were checked with a plug-in light. The first 6 outlets tested were found to be ok, light came on and tester showed circuit was ok. At the 7th receptacle, the plug in light would light but did not appear as bright as when plugged into the first 6 receptacles. Also, the tester again indicated that there was a Hot-to-Gnd (Open Neutral). There remains on this circuit downstream of the 7th receptacle, 4 receptacles, pair of switches (Light and ceiling fan), a set of 3-way switches, and a pair of switches (light and exhaust fan). I have gone to all receptacles and switches and wiggled the wires with no success. I have also checked the wire nuts to be sure there are no loose connections. I am not sure what to do at this point. Thoughts??


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