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Old 01-17-2009, 04:51 PM   #16
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This is just one more example of why a DIY'er should have to pass at least a basic electrical test before being allowed to do anything!
Problem is, who is going to administer the test, and who is going to enforce it??

Not being a licensed electrician myself, but knowing plenty about electricity, and respecting the code, I would have absolutely no problem if I were told that I needed to take and pass such a test.

The worst part about this is that the guy may do his own, lousy work and it will function for years, then he sells the house to the poor, unsuspecting guy and finally something like what happened here does happen, and the new owner is stuck with it.
If everyone had inspection as needed, nothing like this would happen, but again; who is going to enforce this?

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Old 01-17-2009, 05:07 PM   #17
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And how are you going to prevent a DIY from doing work, not getting it inspected & not taking a test? You would never be able to enforce this. Here we are allowed to do our own work. The Inspector has the option at inspection of failing & making you then hire an electrician to correct the problems that were flagged. I welcome the inspection process, so far just had to add secure flex line to my pool pump

The harder you make it, the more people will avoid the proper way & inspections

I've had more then one instance where the Inspector had to review the codes & then get back to me to approve the wiring I wanted to do (right out of the code book). I didn't mind the wait - just a few hours & they clarified I could do what I wanted - but they wanted either 2 trenches with UF, or one trench with conduit (2 circuits). It was easier to do 1 trench & conduit
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Old 01-17-2009, 05:56 PM   #18
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No mind; I'm just ranting.
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Old 01-17-2009, 06:16 PM   #19
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No mind; I'm just ranting.
I know the feeling
I'm on another site where a guy outlined how he was going to wire something. The correct way to wire was pointed out as Code
His reply was tell me why I should wire it that way & please just don't say because code indicates it has to be wired that way
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Old 01-17-2009, 06:39 PM   #20
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Exactly. I can barely change a light bulb without getting a permit. Does that make me want to go out and get a permit... no.

Code does not always make sense for everyone either and it's possible in certain instances to go against code and be perfectly safe.
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Old 01-17-2009, 06:47 PM   #21
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Don't get me wrong, I believe in permits & inspections
I don't need a neighbor pulling a bonehead move & starting an electrical fire & burning my house down too
Going against code doesn't even come into play, that is simply wrong
If you don't know the code then it is your job to find out & wire correctly
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Old 01-17-2009, 10:41 PM   #22
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Actually, one out of 12 "units" failing after 8 years is not a bad MTBF,
Did you used to work for NASA?

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