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Old 06-08-2010, 07:13 PM   #16
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Where the money comes for his renos. is a mystery? Mike never works with what he's got! Its rip and tear the whole nine yards.
I betcha that they look over many, many properties before they find one that the sponsor will be prepared to finance.
there was a behind-the-scenes episode where the producer said sometimes when they run out of money, mike would pull from his own pocket.

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Panels in Canada have a different setup than in US. The main breaker and connection are in a separate compartment from the breakers. The cover is split so that only the breakers need to be exposed not the main connections. Branch circuits are not permitted enter the panel via the main connection compartment. We also do not have a code rule that says a breaker must UP to be on, mounting sideways is permitted.''

I believe sideways mounting might be permitted in the US but you will only be able to use half the breaker slots, the ones that had a beakers up when on.
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They opened up one finished basement ceiling & found 18 hidden junction boxes
Plus the renovator simply cut an HVAC duct to make thinsg fit, leaving a hole blowing heat/AC into the ceiling area
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I try to avoid Homes on Holmes but alas, we are subject to television. I wish i started my own show called CC berates every contractor except myself BUT I can fix this for free show.

Enough about that egocentrical idiot..Leah, just because he makes a fortune in Canada don't paint us with the same brush. (lmao...4" or 6"..get it?..I read your post)

Ok, back to the OP. I have seen many panels mounted horizontally..sometimes the LB positition just warrants it as well as the space provided, and usually these are done in retrofit.

IMO what he is saying is that the top knockout is for service entry only, but now its on the side. Once the panel is mounted sideways any knockout is available on the distribution part of the panel. Most panels have a separate cover for the dist breakers and the main. I really haven't looked but is there a spot in the service enrty for a 1/2" knockout?
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You can't that is why it is a code violation in the US! You can't have a breaker handle facing down when on.

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Are you serious?? Rhetorical qustion I know but somewhat inane. What possible reason could there be for this?...gravity?
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Are you serious?? Rhetorical qustion I know but somewhat inane. What possible reason could there be for this?...gravity?
Because light switches are usually off when down
So someone might think the breaker is off ....and not check
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Enough about that egocentrical idiot..Leah, just because he makes a fortune in Canada don't paint us with the same brush. (lmao...4" or 6"..get it?..I read your post)
OMG - someone is ACTUALLY paying attention to me. I kinda don't know what to say. Shucks. Thanks.
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Are you serious?? Rhetorical qustion I know but somewhat inane. What possible reason could there be for this?...gravity?
yes, gravity.

a breaker is a disconnect and disconnects are required to be down when in the off position (if the motion is vertical). This way it cannot unintentionally fall into the "on" position.
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yes, gravity.

a breaker is a disconnect and disconnects are required to be down when in the off position (if the motion is vertical). This way it cannot unintentionally fall into the "on" position.
Oh my! So if half my lights go off does this mean that they have fallen into the 'OFF' position?
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Oh my! So if half my lights go off does this mean that they have fallen into the 'OFF' position?
half your lights?

an old fatigued disco has been known to fall into an off position. Since it is a reality, they simply put it in our rules that a disco in the down position is off, on is up. I can give you the address of the code committee if you want't to argue it with them.
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half your lights?

an old fatigued disco has been known to fall into an off position. Since it is a reality, they simply put it in our rules that a disco in the down position is off, on is up. I can give you the address of the code committee if you want't to argue it with them.
Better not tell the code committee about 3 way switches or they will be banning these next!
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Better not tell the code committee about 3 way switches or they will be banning these next!
that makes no sense what so ever.
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Here is a picture showing a Square D (Canadian version) panel with the "blast shield" in place, and removed:
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it's broken. Got a link instead?
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that makes no sense what so ever.
Makes perfect sense, in a 3-way setup, lights are on when one up and one down. Both up would turn off light. If one fell because of gravity, the light would turn on.

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