Help splicing many conductors

whatrymes

Hey:

I have an old, 1850, house and a previous electrician loved to use junction boxes to update circuits. He did one in the attic, above two bedrooms, that has 8 cables spliced together. The only old, 1930's steel cable, left in this circuit feeds this box and I want to replace it. My problem is at my level, I can't splice that many wires together. I'm not coordinated enough.

So I was wondering, is it OK to take, let's say, 4 conductors, splice them with a pigtail, then take the other end of the pigtail and splice it to 4 more conductors? Is this a violation? Dumb? Is there another way?

Thank you,
Ed

darren

Ed find some wire and practice a few times before trying the real thing. The secret when you have lots of wire is to strip the end as long as you can(longer the better). Line up the wires where the insulation meets the bare copper and with small slow turns twist them together.

Practice it a few times and you will get the hand of it.

AllanJ

Yes you can do it this way if you wish to.

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Jim Port

These are available with up to 8 ports for wires.

http://www.idealindustries.com/prodD...v=0&l1=push-in

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bryan1282

have you used these before? they look pretty easy to use, might use them on the reno im doin.

Jim Port

I have used the smaller 3 port ones and had no problems. you can look into the connector and see if it is fully inserted.

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whatrymes

Looks real interesting. I am curious however if you feel my original thought would be OK. Not that I prefer it, seems like a lot more work, I was just wondering.

Jim Port

Nothing wrong with the pigtailing. The double wire nuts do take up a lot of room in the box.

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Jim F

I like those push in connectors. They are more money that the wire nuts but take up less space and well worth it for small jobs IMO. They sell them at Home Depot, don't know about Lowes.

frenchelectrican

I have used both Americian and European verison of 6 and 8 port wireconnector and there are few spots I use them as well as Jim Port mention I know they cost little more but it worth the cost when you have limited room in there.

But either way will work fine but doubled wirenuts will take more room than the 6 or 8 ports verison will take up and few case I can use much larger wire nut like grey or big bleu one depending on conductor size and numbers of them.

Merci,
Marc

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quincy

Those push in connector look interesting, how to remove the wire(s) from those connectors?

frenchelectrican

There is two ways to do it depending on which type of connector you used them one way is put a pulling tenstion and twist it back and forth it will creep out or some will have very small opening you stick a small screwdriver or other types of means to relase the clip then slide the conductor out.

that is two most common way.

Merci,
Marc

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whatrymes

I've found the secret of life! Ideal In-Sure wire connectors. Man, was that easy!