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Old 02-02-2012, 03:27 PM   #1
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My name is Nate, I am from Nashville and I own a condo that was built in 2006. I have browsed and searched the forums and I think I know what I need to know but before I head home from work to try again I thought I would post my situation and see if I can get some additional insight.

In our shower stall there is one recessed light. The bulb burned out. I was attempting to remove the cover/trim (6" Satin Nickel Shower Recessed Trim Model # 70SNS) and in the process one of the plastic moldings that held the tension wires (coil spring retention) in place broke off and I needed to replace the trim.

I took the trim to lowes and was able to replace it exactly.

My issue now is the trim will not fit flush (of course). It was flush before but now I cannot get the coil spring retention wires into the brackets in the can. The can is Juno brand IC23W. I can squeeze the wires together and get them close to the brackets but the trim is hitting the drywall and they are still not anywhere close to getting in the bracket. I tried some long needle nose plyers and this did not work either. I tried some adjustment of the inside of the can by loosining the 3 screws at the adjustment points. I am thinking to myself there has to be a trick or something I am missing.

As an aside, I can rotate the brackets. I fliped them so that they are closer to the bottom of the can and I was successful in getting the coil spring retention wires to hold, however the brackets must have been too low as there was quite a bit of space between the trim and the drywall.

Upon closer inspection of the can I noticed that the bottom of the can is not flush with the showerside of the drywall. It is not even flush with the upstairs unit side of the drywall. This has to be my issue right? This can is supposed to be flush with the drywall right?

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Old 02-02-2012, 03:42 PM   #2
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The can has to be flush with the dry wall. If this is in the shower it may even be the wrong trim kit.
A shower needs a trim ring with a rubber gasket around the rim and the lens needs to be sealed.
Is this a new constrution or old constrution type light.
Old constrution would have flat clips on the outsides that hold it in place.
New would have a box with extention arms mounted in the attic or ceiling so it could be nailed to the rafters.

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It is the new construction type.

I am considering shortening the tension wires in the hopes of getting the trim flush.

The trim has a thin gasket piece that seems like it would seal the can if it were flush?

Is there an easy "real" fix to dropping the can so it is flush. If possible I would like to keep this light in good working order and even better than when the construction company did a botch job on it.

FYI-there is no insulation up there around the light.
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Any access in the attic area?
If there is you can remove the nails and move it up some.
If not then just try and push the whole fixture up from below.

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Hey thanks for the replies.

There is no access because it is a condo and there is a unit above me.


I actually need to pull the can down. It is about 1.5 inches above the drywall.
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Pics?

Some cans are adjustable.
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I have fixed the light. The can was adjustable. I still couldn't get it flush but it was low enough. The other workaround was putting the socket and shield housing or bell looking thing up high in the can freeing room for my hands and very small dowel rod to get the tension wires in their brackets. It is not perfect but it will due for now.

It was botched original install for sure.

I have pics on my phone and my laptop is in Colorado with the wife. When I get to work I will upload pics incase anyone needs them for reference.

Thanks for helping and your input.

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Trim Piece-
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Can Picture 1 - You can see the type and the brackets I was aiming for.
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Can Picture 2 - You can see the amount of space between the drywall and the bottom of the can. You can also see where I have removed the screw that allowed the can to stay in one spot once adjusted. As an added bonus you can see the key too I put to use, my dowel rod. I used this to push the coil tension wires on the trim into place.

Again-I appreciate the replies and input. In an ideal world this would be taken down and replaced so it is done correctly.

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