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Old 06-05-2011, 08:48 AM   #16
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Please be careful of the advise you give for testing circuits. Some post have been removed, the advise was not safe.

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With the amount of testers, meters and other electrical troubleshooting devices available, intentionally shorting a wire to see" what happens" is NEVER a viable option.
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Sounds like the light was and still is wired that the neutral is being broke by the switch.
Ah, yes. Now it makes sense. The neutral is switched, and it was not the incoming hot, but the fixture neutral that was contacting the grounded box. Ideally, he would investigate and correct this - but that could be a lot of work depending on how the circuit is wired.
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I don;t know, that's more or less what i was asking.
A few weeks ago i replaced a receptacle and must have nicked the hot when i was tightening it. When i turned on the breaker it didn't trip, just alot of sparking.
When i intentionally shorted it, sure enough it didn't trip.
I intentionally shorted a receptacle on a different circuit and it tripped like it's supposed to. So i figured it must be a problem with the breaker? i replaced the breaker and everything worked as it should.

So, is there another way i could have come to this solution without intentionally trying to short it out?

BTW i'm not trying to argue with you here, I'm genuinely curious how a pro would have troubleshot it.

Hell, maybe that wasn't even the problem and i somehow fixed it at the same time as changing the breaker lol.
I had hoped that this was a mistake the first time it was posted and Speedy said how stupid and dangerous this procedure is, but, I see this is a standard MO for this poster.

To any others reading this post. Do not utilize this procedure.
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Old 06-05-2011, 06:22 PM   #20
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I had hoped that this was a mistake the first time it was posted and Speedy said how stupid and dangerous this procedure is, but, I see this is a standard MO for this poster.

To any others reading this post. Do not utilize this procedure.

Oh whats the harm. So what if the wires melt together and burn down not only the house, but kills the wife and kids.

Who needs to use a electrical multi meter, short the wires and hope the breaker saves your butt and your wife and children's lives.
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I had hoped that this was a mistake the first time it was posted and Speedy said how stupid and dangerous this procedure is, but, I see this is a standard MO for this poster.
I guess our new friend doesn't run across too many FPE breakers.
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I guess our new friend doesn't run across too many FPE breakers.
I would bet that the term arc flash is not in the vocabulary either. I am not a fan of molten hot metal potentially flying back in my direction, but who am I to judge?

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