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Old 09-12-2009, 01:57 PM   #1
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Hard wired lighting in very tight vertical space?


What kind of lighting is out there that can be hardwired but can fit in a very small veritcal height? I have to install three lights under my ducts in the basement. But the space between the duct and the drywall is about 3 inches.

I was going to install some puck under cabinet lighting here, but they are all plug in. What exists that can be hardwired?

Thanks for tips.

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Old 09-12-2009, 02:23 PM   #2
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I used some of the puck type lights from Home Depot in a similar situation. I cut off the cord and ran some 14-2 romex to the light and made the connection inside, just like you would hard wire a light under a kitchen counter. The romex is in the wall and not exposed

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Just so I am clear with the facts, "Git", suggested that you use, "puck
type lights". So these would be a type of low voltage luminaire. Now,
to operate, on the correct voltage they would need a transformer.
Now were would you place the transformer?

How big of transformer will you need?

Some transformer come with a cord and male plug.

If the power use allow this type, then you need to install a power
receptacle, so that this type of transformer has some where to
plug into.

Some of the bigger transformers come with a built in junction box.
In this case, you would directly wire you NM Cable right into the
the transformer j-box.

Post back if you need additional information.

And if you could supply a picture of the location, that would be very
helpful.
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Old 09-12-2009, 05:37 PM   #4
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I bought a light similar to this one at HD



It is a 110v light with a plug and you can buy other lights and connect them with an accessory plug. They also have one single light, like a puck, that is also 110v with a plug

I ran the romex straight to the light, drilled a hole in the metal fixture, clamped it with a 1/2" romex connector and rewired it
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Git you don't think they would have made that light without the
cord and plug, do you?
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Here is a picture of the area.

http://www.conqo.com/base.jpg

To make things easier should I just wire an electrical outlet into the wall and have it plugged in there and just have the outlet off the same switch as the lights. Would that cure all my issues?
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I look at the photo, wow! I don't see duct work.

I see what would be call a soffit, (overhead).

I wish you had someone point to the exact location you wanted to
put the lights when you took the photo.

So I am going to guess. I the lights going to underneath the soffit that
you frame up.

I think you want to go recess but only three inches to work with?

Outlet boxes, octagon style are only 1-1/2", but the light fixture,(luminaire), would then be surface mounted. I'm I getting warm.

Post back, I now have more question than answers.

But to your question, that I can answer. Yes, if that what you really
want. Personal I think you can do better. Then a plug-in luminaire.

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Thanks for the reply. The soffit is built around the heat and return ducts. They were painted black in the past so it's hard to see. Now I want to add 3 lights at the bottom ofthe soffit. One every two openings. Below it I plan to have a few items on display stands. So I am not worried about a huge amount of light. I am only worried about the under cabinet halogen lights due to heat on the drywall. Would that be an issue?

Thanks again
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Hard wired lighting in very tight vertical space?


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What kind of lighting is out there that can be hardwired but can fit in a very small veritcal height? I have to install three lights under my ducts in the basement. But the space between the duct and the drywall is about 3 inches.

I was going to install some puck under cabinet lighting here, but they are all plug in. What exists that can be hardwired?

Thanks for tips.
First off. What's wrong with a plug-in?! Secondly. Your Electrical supply store or Home center like Home Depot or Lowe's would certainly carry such fixture!(No matter what)Don't Drink and Drive, Ever!!!
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You can install track lighting along the whole length of the soffit. And install a power conector/end feed that the romex cable would directly feed into. You could also use the "Floating Feed". For more on track lighting I
suggest you go a lighting store or electrical supply house pick a catalog
on track lighting. They also track lighting, end feeds, that come with a
cord and plug unit.

The next apporch would to install, three 4" octagon outlet boxes x 1-1/2"
deep, with 1/2" knockouts or interior romex clamps. You have to install
a board for this outlet box to mount to. There are other types of metal
4" octagons and well as 4" round plastic boxes. You should find something
that can work for you, at The Home Depot or Lowes.

Now the circuit, figure out were you place you on/off switch, and then
run cable from that location, (the switch box), to the soffit and in one
box, back out, then in the other and back out, and so on.

As for the finish lighting product you would use, I'm guess you want
somthing like a round white cylinder in which you can install a R-30
bulb. (flood or spot). THere are to many choices for me to list.

I hope this help. If not post back.

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