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lchilds 09-20-2008 09:58 AM

Hallway celing fixture
 
I am having trouble figuring out how to install a new hallway fixture- I had a friend help me at first- but he twisted a white and black wire together and caused the breaker to keep kicking off.

Are the wires still ok to use after that fiasco?

If they are- I need help. There are 3 white wires and 2 black wires coming from the ceiling box. The new fixture has 2 white 2 black and a ground. Where would the other white wire from the box go?

J. V. 09-20-2008 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by lchilds (Post 159722)
I am having trouble figuring out how to install a new hallway fixture- I had a friend help me at first- but he twisted a white and black wire together and caused the breaker to keep kicking off.

Are the wires still ok to use after that fiasco?

If they are- I need help. There are 3 white wires and 2 black wires coming from the ceiling box. The new fixture has 2 white 2 black and a ground. Where would the other white wire from the box go?

Why were the wires not identified when the old fixture was removed? This is the first mistake and the biggest one. :no:
Your friend created a short circuit with his connection. I doubt that would have ruined the wires. Just cut off any burnt section and re-strip the two wires. There may be no burnt section as the breaker did it's job.

You must identify the wires in the ceiling and switch box. Open the switch box that controls this fixture. Look and see if there is a white wire connected to the switch. If not read no further.

This will be the switch leg. Find this wire in the ceiling box and mark it with a black marker or black tape.
Connect all the whites in the ceiling box together and pigtail another short piece to them. This short pigtail will go to the 2 whites in the fixture.
Connect the white switch leg (marked black) to the 2 black wires in the fixture. Connect the two remaining blacks together.
This would be a typical setup and your wiring could be different.

If this does not work, get a pigtail socket that you can screw a bulb into. These are for temporary lighting, and can be purchased at any hardware or HD and Lowes. They are insulated and will have a white and black leads.

With this pigtail socket you will have to try a trial and error process until you find the correct connections.

lchilds 09-20-2008 11:34 AM

Thank you so much for your quick reply!:) I'm not sure how you find the switch wire in the ceiling box and so sorry but have NO idea what a pigtail is that I need to do with the wires. Please bear with me- I'm alien to this!

:thumbup:

Big Bob 09-20-2008 12:17 PM

Do you have one switch that operates this fixture?

SD515 09-20-2008 09:25 PM

I'm wondering why there is 3 whites but only 2 blacks in the ceiling box. You sure there isn't another wire hiding in the box?

What kind of insulation do these wires have? Cloth covered or the newer plastic coated insulation? Are they in conduit or NM (Romex) cables?

Is this light controlled by the one switch, or is there 1 or 2 more that control it? Is there also another light that this switch controls?

When you have the breaker off, what else is 'dead'??...another light, an outlet, etc??

A volt/ohm meter will come in very handy to check the wiring setup. One that can check AC voltage and ohms (resistance). Borrow one or you can pick one up at any hardware store for a few bucks. You're going to need to find the wires that go to the switch as well as the wires that feed power in.


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