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IdahoEv 08-29-2012 01:52 PM

Ground wire on jacuzzi pump?
 
When we had our house inspected before the purchase, the inspector noted the fact that the jacuzzi pump did not have a ground wire. How big a deal is that / how urgently should I fix it?

It's going to be marginally tricky in this case because the ground wire stud, assuming the motor has one, is on the far side of the motor from the access hatch. I'll probably need a mirror on a pole to see what I'm doing.

Thanks!

Jim Port 08-29-2012 01:58 PM

Does the report say ground wire or a bond wire is missing? The ground wire should be in the cable feeding the tub.

A bond wire may not be needed, depending on the piping material used.

stickboy1375 08-29-2012 02:02 PM

Im betting it doesn't have a bond wire, and probably doesn't require one.

bobelectric 08-29-2012 02:12 PM

# 8 awg min.

IdahoEv 08-29-2012 02:16 PM

Now that I look, it doesn't actually say anything about it on the report. I just remember the inspector mentioning it to me as we did the walk through. He said there should be a ground wire attached to the pump that runs either to a ground stake under the crawlspace or to cold water plumbing. He didn't see one and thought the terminal for it was probably on on the far side of the pump from the access hatch.

Jim Port 08-29-2012 02:18 PM

A ground stake or rod would do absolutely nothing beneficial for the tub.

stickboy1375 08-29-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by IdahoEv (Post 999132)
Now that I look, it doesn't actually say anything about it on the report. I just remember the inspector mentioning it to me as we did the walk through. He said there should be a ground wire attached to the pump that runs either to a ground stake under the crawlspace or to cold water plumbing. He didn't see one and thought the terminal for it was probably on on the far side of the pump from the access hatch.

IF the recirculating plumbing is plastic, which 99.9 percent are, then there is nothing to bond.

stickboy1375 08-29-2012 02:32 PM

Just another H-I report gone wrong. :)

Speedy Petey 08-29-2012 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IdahoEv (Post 999132)
Now that I look, it doesn't actually say anything about it on the report. I just remember the inspector mentioning it to me as we did the walk through. He said there should be a ground wire attached to the pump that runs either to a ground stake under the crawlspace or to cold water plumbing. He didn't see one and thought the terminal for it was probably on on the far side of the pump from the access hatch.

More proof that most H-I have no clue about most electrical installations.
Even if it were required, NEITHER of the two options he suggested is proper or necessary.

electures 08-30-2012 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IdahoEv (Post 999132)
Now that I look, it doesn't actually say anything about it on the report. I just remember the inspector mentioning it to me as we did the walk through. He said there should be a ground wire attached to the pump that runs either to a ground stake under the crawlspace or to cold water plumbing. He didn't see one and thought the terminal for it was probably on on the far side of the pump from the access hatch.

The #8 bonding conductor would be required only if the NEC in affect at the time of installation required it, or the manufacturer required it. If one is needed, it would connnect the hot and cold to the motor. It is not required to be ran to the "ground stake".

stickboy1375 08-30-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by electures (Post 999993)
If one is needed, it would connnect the hot and cold to the motor. .

This was never required by the NEC, nor serves a purpose.


I have seen some manufactures require a #8 from the motor back to the electrical panel, which I completely ignore, because that also serves no purpose and is just some jackass misinterpreting the NEC...


The only requirement by the NEC is to bond the recirculating piping, if applicable, all tubs today are strictly plastic, so its a moot point.

electures 08-31-2012 08:38 PM

I didn't state that it was required. I stated that "if" it was required. And I have neither the time nor desire to dig through all of my code books all the way back to the late sixties to find out.

bobelectric 08-31-2012 08:45 PM

The thing with the all in one home inspectors is they hold up the sale of a house by their opinions. Buyers get leary.


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