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disx2000 05-28-2009 12:46 AM

Ground wire behind baseboard
 
Hi,

I just bought my first house. I have a sunken den which has no crawl space and very limited attic space. It also has wood paneling all around the room. I want to ground all 3 outlets in the room (they are 3-prong outlets but no ground). I want to avoid destroying the wood paneling and I want to avoid running wires to the stucco outside. 2 electricians I've talked to has suggested running the ground wire behind the baseboards I'm going to be installing after put on my laminate floors. Is this an good solution? Any concerns with this setup?
Thanks a lot

dSilanskas 05-28-2009 04:32 AM

No I don't see an issue with that setup.

joed 05-28-2009 08:37 AM

A ground wire only? or a new cable with ground wire in it? If the cable is less then 1.25 inches from surface then you need to protect it from nails and screws.

J. V. 05-28-2009 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by joed (Post 279647)
A ground wire only? or a new cable with ground wire in it? If the cable is less then 1.25 inches from surface then you need to protect it from nails and screws.

Thats right. You cannot run a separate ground wire to the receptacles. You have to run new cables with ground included.

If you can find the first receptacle in the circuit, you can install a GFCI for added protection. You still will not have a ground, but it will protect from electrical shock. I doubt it would give you any protection for electronic equipment. But I have been wrong before.

HouseHelper 05-28-2009 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by J. V. (Post 279687)
Thats right. You cannot run a separate ground wire to the receptacles. You have to run new cables with ground included.

If you can find the first receptacle in the circuit, you can install a GFCI for added protection. You still will not have a ground, but it will protect from electrical shock. I doubt it would give you any protection for electronic equipment. But I have been wrong before.

Actually you can (NEC 250.134(B), Exception 1), but it's usually just as easy to run new cable.

disx2000 05-28-2009 12:46 PM

ahhh, I might have misunderstood them because I thought they said to run the ground wire behind the baseboards.
I'm not really knowledgeable with electrical stuff so my question would be why can't I just run ground wire separately and must run the new cables?

Also, have you guys had any experience with WireMolds?

Thanks

AllanJ 05-28-2009 03:13 PM

There are various situations where surface mounting or mounting the separate ground wire under or behind the baseboard (or on the other side of the wall possibly on the exterior) is much simpler than running new in-wall cables with ground. Notably one might not want to tear open the wall. The ground wire need only approximate the routing of the in-wall cables back to the panel.

I personally would not bother with Wiremold for just the one ground conductor.

spark plug 05-28-2009 03:57 PM

Issue of Ground/ed wire behind baseboard?
 
Presently there is no problem with running the ground wire [for several outlets] behind the baseboard. But, since ground wire does not have to be protected against mechanical injury (in plain English, damage! It could even be bare.) any future renovations might leave those outlets without ground protection!!!:yes::drink:

J. V. 05-30-2009 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AllanJ (Post 279801)
There are various situations where surface mounting or mounting the separate ground wire under or behind the baseboard (or on the other side of the wall possibly on the exterior) is much simpler than running new in-wall cables with ground. Notably one might not want to tear open the wall. The ground wire need only approximate the routing of the in-wall cables back to the panel.

I personally would not bother with Wiremold for just the one ground conductor.

It does not matter if you have to tear down the house. The ground wire must be included in the cable or conduit. Period. No exceptions. :no:


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