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Old 07-28-2015, 02:27 PM   #1
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I partially drove two ground rods near the meter socket. This particular spot where the ground rods are will eventually be covered with landscape rocks. So, I was wondering if by any chance this would pose an issue. Also, I was wondering whether or not the meter socket itself needs to be grounded and thus conected to the ground rods.

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use the bronze gnd clamps, landscape away.

meter socket grounding? the metal case should already be grounded.

what all the blackish spaghetti in the pic that appears to go to a whip to the meter.

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As long as 8 feet of the rod is in contact with the earth, then there's no problem. But from the looks of your pic, only about 2 feet are in the dirt.
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Your power company may not allow grounding in the socket.
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Your power company may not allow grounding in the socket.
Most don't.
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use the bronze gnd clamps, landscape away.

meter socket grounding? the metal case should already be grounded.

what all the blackish spaghetti in the pic that appears to go to a whip to the meter.

This is the new meter socket with new service entrance cable from meter socket box to circuit breaker inside premises:



The spaghetti mess is made of and old ground wire, underground wire coming from the garage (with subpanel there), and cat3 phone wires, etc. I am installing new aluminum service entrance cable for a new siemens circuit breaker box. But before that I had to change the siding, etc, of the room whereon the new circuit breaker is situated.



I heard somewhere that the meter socket itself would need to be grounded, but the previous one was not grounded and it seems that grounding occurs in the panel only. Also the ground wires themselves did not travel to the interior of the house via any conduit (which seems to be the case for most par), so I assume that it is not a requirement for the grounding wires to travel through a conduit.

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As long as 8 feet of the rod is in contact with the earth, then there's no problem. But from the looks of your pic, only about 2 feet are in the dirt.
yep, I am still driving the ground rods; got tired of hammering down the rods. It seems that the soil has too many rock sediments at a certain death. But I will get there. It is almost all driven to the soil now, I will post updated pics!
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The meter socket is electrically "grounded" to the neutral from the utility. The earth ground is allowed to connect in the meter socket by code, but may be forbidden by the utility. It can also connect to the neutral at the weather head or in the panel. By far the most common way is in the panel.

Also, if you have a metal water main, you'll need to take a #4 copper to within 5 ft. of where it enters the house.

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