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Old 11-08-2012, 06:18 PM   #1
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There are two outlets in my bathroom. Both are connected to the same run, and the second outlet is the end of run. While remodeling my bathroom, I added a GFI as the first outlet, and then added a second outlet attached to that in a two gang box. This was then carried to an additional two outlets in a second two gang box. Hooked it all up, turned the power on, and everything worked. I tripped the GFI a couple times, and everything worked properly.


After work I turned on a kitchen light, which is also on the same run just before the GFI. The light flickered and turned off. I checked the breaker and the breaker was still on. I checked the outlets in the bathroom and none have power (my power tester blinks and beeps like there is power in the outlet when I get it close, but when I plug the plug in tester to the outlet it does not show the outlet as working).

I tried troubleshooting it by replacing the GFI with a normal outlet, but the dining room light is still off and the outlets do not have power. I also used a tester and verified the outlet was wired properly before this happened, so I know nothing was reversed. My power tester beeps when I put it near the kitchen light and switch, and there is a floodlight in the same switchbox which is running properly.

Any ideas? I should also add that my home has no ground wire, though the panel is grounded with a grounding rod.

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Old 11-08-2012, 06:49 PM   #2
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Are you using a non contact tester? If so---get a tester with two wires--a Wiggy is great---but a $3.00 neon tester is better than a non contact one.

Power is good--but a neutral is also needed---have you verified that you have power and a neutral?

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Old 11-08-2012, 06:50 PM   #3
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If the kitchen light is before the GFI on the circuit, why would you think that replacing the GFI would change the kitchen light not working?

Your problem is likely that the splice where the GFI gets its power from went bad...either the hot or the neutral.

Your other problem is that you didn't run a new circuit for those bathroom receptacle per code.
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I have a non contact tester, an outlet tester, and a multimeter. The non contact shows power nearby, but the multimeter shows no power at the switch for the kitchen light, or anything beyond that.
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That circuit went dead after you worked on the bathroom----have you traced the wires there? any still hot?
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I checked the writes coming into the switches. Both showing no power, despite the flood light being on. There is one wire going to each switch, and no jumpers in between. I'm starting to think there are pig tails in the wall somewhere.
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I'm getting confused----I thought the kitchen lights were tied into the bathroom and went dead because of something in that room------

Am I wrong? Do you think the kitchen failure is a separate issue?
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I think they are the same, but I suppose they could be separate problems. Ironic if they are though. My point was that there is only one line going to the kitchen light switch, so it can't be the beginning or middle of the run impedes there is another connection somewhere in the wall going up to the bathroom
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The power could come from the fixture then to the bathroom.
You may have to pull the fixture down.
What color wires are connected to the switch?
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The power could come from the fixture then to the bathroom.
You may have to pull the fixture down.
What color wires are connected to the switch?
They are black and white. I am guessing the power hits the fixture then the bathroom. But if thats the case then why wouldn't the kitchen light work? I have power when I checked the breaker to the neutral bus, So the breaker is fine. But no power in the switch.

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