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Old 04-01-2014, 05:57 PM   #31
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Why should the lighting be separate from receptacles?

In Australia it is standard practice !
Lights on one circuit
And power on another !

I think its a good idea !
Cause if you blow a breaker you dont plunge the room into darkness,
a good safety idea.

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In Australia it is standard practice !
Lights on one circuit
And power on another !

I think its a good idea !
Cause if you blow a breaker you dont plunge the room into darkness,
a good safety idea.
And what happens if the lighting breaker trips?
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And what happens if the lighting breaker trips?
The wall powered floor or desk lamp still works.....and if the layout was done right...the adjacent room works....

It gets a bit more complicated when there is a power outage....

At the end of the day....do what you want.....

Personally, I like the fact that I can turn off the power to outlets in a room and still have lights....or turn off the lighting ckt and still have power to the outlets for a floor lamp.
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Seperating lighting from receptacles makes no sense, you can try to justify it anyway you want, but in the end the result is the same.....
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I am the same way ddawg. Hate having a place, that the lights are tied into the outlets. Wait, scratch that. My Living Room is still on the same circuit as the outlets. One of those items that is still on my to-do list.
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Seperating lighting from receptacles makes no sense, you can try to justify it anyway you want, but in the end the result is the same.....
Must be an Eastern thing....set in your ways....regardless of any reasons your given....

One could say....how do you justify putting them on the same ckt?
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When I layout a room for electrical, I mix and match....usually several lights and a few receptacles per circuit. My breakers never trip so it's moot but that way if they do, I still have some lighting that works.
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Must be an Eastern thing....set in your ways....regardless of any reasons your given.... One could say....how do you justify putting them on the same ckt?

I've been doing this for a very long time, and never once have I gone into a house, turned off a circuit breaker and said "thank god a genius wired the light on a different circuit" it just doesn't happen..... With that said, DIY people generally recreate the wheel when wiring and over kill everything because they really just lack the knowledge and real world scenarios.
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How many times are you guys tripping breakers that lights going off is a big concern? I can't remember the last time I tripped a breaker. You have bigger issues than lights and receptacles sharing circuits if you are tripping breakers enough that this a big concern.
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Personally, I like the fact that I can turn off the power to outlets in a room and still have lights....or turn off the lighting ckt and still have power to the outlets for a floor lamp.
Ddawg ... I'm assuming here this is because you are anticipating an electrical problem someday and you want the convenience of light or power close by ?? Otherwise why would you want to do that on a regular enough basis to warrant a wiring layout like that?

The discussion here isn't about how you want to wire your personal home but about how it makes any real and applicable difference any where else..
convenience is not a good enough reason to justify the extra cost in labor and materials for a problem that would be very rare in a quality wired home where that is not done.

BTW .. I'll wire a home with lights and receptacles on separated circuits where possible as I comply with NEC codes as long as my name appears on the front of a big enough check ...
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I've been doing this for a very long time, and never once have I gone into a house, turned off a circuit breaker and said "thank god a genius wired the light on a different circuit" it just doesn't happen..... With that said, DIY people generally recreate the wheel when wiring and over kill everything because they really just lack the knowledge and real world scenarios.
And your doing most of your work during the day.....when its still light outside.

I don't anticipate tripping breakers...but I like being able to turn off outlet power and still have lights.

And...I find it a lot easier to wire lights with 14/2 vs using 12/2...

Unless of course your doing your outlets on 15a ckts....

Do what ever you want....your going to do what is quickest and easiest to code.....but on my house...I'll do it my way....and based on all the houses in my area....they were doing it that way 60 years ago.

One last thing.....what is wrong with the way I'm doing it? You have never been able to answer that....nor do I think you can answer it....

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