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Old 05-03-2011, 09:42 PM   #16
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good lead on that though, what if the the black and white are reversed? in other words maybe the black is white and the white is hot :D i have seen this before, people reversing polarity. I would say this is the best bet, try the white wire on the brass screw and the black on the silver,
A newer GFI, if wired reversed, will NOT let power through, just like he described in post #1.

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he said there is a ground, i don't think it's a two wire system
No, he said he grounded it to the box.
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No, he said he grounded it to the box.
"ground to box and ground lead". Maybe OP needs to confirm.
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What?
What were you asking? See Speedy's reply, because it is line to what I was implying. Most inspecters, especially home inspectors are not worth the trouble to open the door. Now days, you have too many inspectors that were contractors, that think because they used a hammer & saw, or a pair of dykes, think they know everything about inspection. Even when I was in the Navy, it took continuous training to be up to date on everything. A couple of us spent a week learning about various ways to do our jobs better, but even the instructors stated that they could not teach everything in one week, that it could take a year, and still not know everything about everything with Electrical. It is an on going process, because people learn better/safer techniques, and the process changes, because the laws change locally & nationally to make dwellings safer.
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What were you asking? See Speedy's reply, because it is line to what I was implying. Most inspecters, especially home inspectors are not worth the trouble to open the door. Now days, you have too many inspectors that were contractors, that think because they used a hammer & saw, or a pair of dykes, think they know everything about inspection. Even when I was in the Navy, it took continuous training to be up to date on everything. A couple of us spent a week learning about various ways to do our jobs better, but even the instructors stated that they could not teach everything in one week, that it could take a year, and still not know everything about everything with Electrical. It is an on going process, because people learn better/safer techniques, and the process changes, because the laws change locally & nationally to make dwellings safer.
Got it. I thought you meant the posters were complaining.
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"ground to box and ground lead". Maybe OP needs to confirm.
I think so. I read that as the lead from the box.

If there is a valid ground present then all bets are off. I have no idea what the problem is.
What he describes is a text book "no ground present" condition.
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I think so. I read that as the lead from the box.

If there is a valid ground present then all bets are off. I have no idea what the problem is.
What he describes is a text book "no ground present" condition.
That is the same I am getting. Just enough info to get the basics, but not enough to know the whole story.
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hey guys thanks for all the help, it is a three wire system. Just pulled the outlet out to recheck again, and the white IS hot so somewhere some one got a wire lead hooked up to the wrong wire before I got to it, I know for sure that I did check and switched the leads before to try it and the gfci would not reset so i switched it back, but however I neglected to check the voltage at the leads. wow stupid for overlooking that.
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cool! glad you found the problem. if you get the tool i linked in the my previous post it will help you check all your recepticals and maybe you can find where they got reversed

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