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Old 05-03-2011, 08:01 PM   #1
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Hi I have a gfci outlet in my bathroom that is brand new and was checked by a esa inspector and he said that it was wired wrong. Checked it a couple of times, it is wired correctly with only line coming in with neutral and hot and ground (white to silver, black to copper, and ground to box and ground lead). had it checked again and the same thing with the tester and he suggested changing the outlet. Replaced the gfci with another brand new unit and still the same thing. I did try just for the sake of it changing the polarity and no power present. The outlet works correctly when tested traditionally by plugging a light in and tripping the test button, light goes out, reset and light comes on. Check with plug tester and still shows not correct, I am becoming fustrated and stumped any help would be greatly appreceiated.

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GFCIs have a line side and a load side. Which side are you using?

Also, what is the 'error' given with the tester? If it simply won't trip the GFCI then maybe the tester is bad.

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the line side, the load side has a yellow covering on it.
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make sure your on the line side
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that's weird, sounds correct, maybe a picture or 2?
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as far as i can see it shows a green light and a red light light. And I believe that it is suppose to be green and green. it was done by two different esa inspectors and two different testers.
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This is a stretch...but could your ground conductor be hot, somehow?
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weird for sure this isn't my first kick at that can, I've wired dozens of these and have no issue of this sort.
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Not sure to be honest with you
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good lead on that though, what if the the black and white are reversed? in other words maybe the black is white and the white is hot :D i have seen this before, people reversing polarity. I would say this is the best bet, try the white wire on the brass screw and the black on the silver, I'm willing to put money that this might be it and if it is pick up one of these at a local hardware store if you havn't all ready and check all your recepticals and fix them as needed

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Then forget the tester.

But, All the testers I've used have labels which give a specific error based on the colors given. Can you be more specific about the error?
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They are probably complaining about the Ground to box, then ground to GFCI. Update your profile with your location.
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They are probably complaining about the Ground to box, then ground to GFCI. Update your profile with your location.
What?
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What this is is a GFI installed on a circuit with no ground present. Simply grounding to the box will do nothing if there is no ground in the wiring method.

Now, this is a perfectly legal and acceptable installation. The only thing is a plug-in tester will NOT work on a GFI installed like this. IT IS STILL legal and safe. In fact it is much safe than a regular receptacle.
Problem is many inspectors with little experience or clue will call this out as defective. IT IS NOT.
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What this is is a GFI installed on a circuit with no ground present. Simply grounding to the box will do nothing if there is no ground in the wiring method.

Now, this is a perfectly legal and acceptable installation. The only thing is a plug-in tester will NOT work on a GFI installed like this. IT IS STILL legal and safe. In fact it is much safe than a regular receptacle.
Problem is many inspectors with little experience or clue will call this out as defective. IT IS NOT.
he said there is a ground, black on brass, white on silver and ground to box then ground lead, i don't think it's a two wire system.


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