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Old 05-10-2010, 02:48 PM   #1
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I'm getting ready for my electrical rough in inspection and just thought I'd run a couple of things through with you guys ... any tips would be appreciated.

I'm hoping I have everything ready for the rough in - but would appreciate any glaring mistakes or other things I should have ready - go figure, removed all the insulation from the attic and it snows this past weekend! It's MAY!!!!


for plug & switch receptacles;
- all romex lines into the box, ground is connected, hot and neutrals are rolled into the box (about 8" of wire length)
- stapled within 12" of box.
- box secured to studs

for lighting (pot lights)
- all romex lines into the insulated box (second floor), ground is connected, hot and neutrals are rolled into the box (about 18" of wire length)
- stapled within 12" of box.
- box secured to joists

power source
- home runs are run to the panel, but not connected - they're rolled with about 5-6ft of extra romex and stapled next to the subpanel


thanks to any replies!

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Old 05-10-2010, 03:41 PM   #2
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What size wires and breakers?

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Sounds good to me, that is usually what an inspector will want to see.

Regarding wire size
#14-15A breaker
#12-20A breaker
Lighting circuits need to be protected by 15A breaker can not be 20A.

Did you remember smoke detectors if you need them and make sure you interconnect with 3 wire if there are more then one.

Bedrooms need to be on an arc fault.

When it comes to finishing most plugs in the house need to be tamper proof, there are a few exceptions and if you need to no where that is I can look it up for you.

Any plug within 1.5M of a sink will need GFI protection, the inspector may ask about them.

Nothing else comes to mind for commonly missed items.
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Sounds good to me, that is usually what an inspector will want to see.

Regarding wire size
#14-15A breaker
#12-20A breaker
Lighting circuits need to be protected by 15A breaker can not be 20A.

Did you remember smoke detectors if you need them and make sure you interconnect with 3 wire if there are more then one.

Bedrooms need to be on an arc fault.

When it comes to finishing most plugs in the house need to be tamper proof, there are a few exceptions and if you need to no where that is I can look it up for you.

Any plug within 1.5M of a sink will need GFI protection, the inspector may ask about them.

Nothing else comes to mind for commonly missed items.
hey there darren! ... thanks for the reply ... this is great! just as a note for the bedrooms ... does everything in the bedroom need to be arc fault protected, or just the plugs? I thought the lights didn't need to be.

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I beleive only the plugs have to be, unless Ontario has something different in there codes.
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Only the receptacles are required to but lighting is not banned from being if you wish it to be on the same circuit. I sent that exact question in to ESA a month ago. Here is their response.

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Bedroom receptacles are required to be AFCI protected. Are lighting fixtures also required to be AFCI protected in a bedroom

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--- (brightwk) 4/8/2010 12:25:33 PM
Please accept my apologies for the delay in replying to your question, I am currently receiving a high volume of questions resulting in a backlog in answering them. Thanks for your patience.

Rule 26-722 of the electrical code states that branch circuits that supply receptacles installed in sleeping facilities of a dwelling unit shall be protected by an arc-fault circuit interrupter. The rule does not require AFCI protection of lighting outlets; however they are permitted to be supplied by an AFCI protected branch circuit.

Reference is to the Ontario Electrical Safety Code 24th Edition/2009.
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Only the receptacles are required to but lighting is not banned from being if you wish it to be on the same circuit. I sent that exact question in to ESA a month ago. Here is their response.

Question:

Bedroom receptacles are required to be AFCI protected. Are lighting fixtures also required to be AFCI protected in a bedroom

Answer:

--- (brightwk) 4/8/2010 12:25:33 PM
Please accept my apologies for the delay in replying to your question, I am currently receiving a high volume of questions resulting in a backlog in answering them. Thanks for your patience.

Rule 26-722 of the electrical code states that branch circuits that supply receptacles installed in sleeping facilities of a dwelling unit shall be protected by an arc-fault circuit interrupter. The rule does not require AFCI protection of lighting outlets; however they are permitted to be supplied by an AFCI protected branch circuit.

Reference is to the Ontario Electrical Safety Code 24th Edition/2009.
hey there joed ... gee whiz ... I didn't know you could email them and ask questions! how did you do this? I've been searching their website - but the only place I can find is the "contact us" link ... but that doesn't look like the place to ask a question ...

blah ... nevermind ... I found it under the FAQ section - go figure. this is great ... thanks for the reply!

I'll post how my rough-in inspection goes...

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Go to the Technical FAQ page at esasafe.com. Click LOGIN and create an ID then you can 'Ask A Question". It says they will respond in 5 business days but it took almost a month.
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Pages #3 and 4: http://www.pwcgov.org/docLibrary/PDF/005575.pdf

A few I've seen: pancake box not grounded, soffit fixture not installed, 1/4" of sheathing inside box, clearances around sub-panel, floating insulators at s.p., covering all holes in panel.

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