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Old 12-25-2011, 11:46 AM   #166
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Old 12-25-2011, 11:59 AM   #167
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In this thread maybe.....take a look around and you'll find he's not done yet
Did he ever go to bed last night? As a kid, he sure has done a lot. I am in my forties, and I do not think that I have as much as experience as this guy does. Or then again maybe I do.

Personally, he would not last long in the military, with his great "knowledge" and telling people how it is, nor once he gets out there on a big job with a lot of trades, and has forty different bosses telling him how they want something, then getting pulled to go somewhere else to do something else. But little does he know, he is not going to be doing all trades on that site, so he better choose wisely.
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Old 12-25-2011, 12:06 PM   #168
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Did he ever go to bed last night?
I don't know if HE did, but I did....I was up late, but 2am is about all this old man can give to the cause, lol.
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Old 12-25-2011, 12:12 PM   #169
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ada...... On the job sites I've done work at, all the Electricians have always stated the bottom of the box cannot be any lower than 12'' from the ground, and light switches cannot be any lower than 43 1/2'' (bottom of the box) I was told by an Electrician Americans with Disabilities Act required it. Same with toilet seats from the rim of the toilet not being allowed to be any higher than 18'' from the ground. To raise it up you can use a raised toilet seat if its needed. etc.
People in a chair are going to have a tough time reaching plugs that are 12" to bottem of box,thats roughly 14" and change to center of box.
I normally put mine at 16" to bottem of plug boxes and 48" top of switch boxes.
If im doing a house/room for an ADA person I usually wire things to fit their personal needs/preferences
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Old 12-25-2011, 12:22 PM   #170
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Read above

Mentioned it in my above edit before you posted

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Engineers only deal with the structure itself.

Electrical Plot Plan will only list where electrical fixtures themselves are located. Electricians (Licensed Electricians who have 10,000+hrs aka An Electrician with a LIcense) can alter their locations as deemed necissary provided it meets Electrical Codes. Same with Licensed Plumbers and Plumbing Fixtures. They can relocate fixtures if they wanted if they feel it would be better suited for the design/location of a room or living area or location. As long as what they do meets building code.
Electrical plot plan?
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That only shows the underground wiring....
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I was going to say plummen, aren't outlets in commercial buildings 16", and switches a little lower? I know that every time I walk into my office, the switches feel a lot lower than they are in my home, and I know that the outlets are higher. Hmmn, could it be because people tend to sit in their chair, whether it is a desk chair, wheelchair or other assistance device to plug stuff into the wall outlet.
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Nobody else does them exactly the same level as I do,after 30 years in the trades and 3 pacemakers Ive learned not to worry so much about little things.
Well somedays anyways!
Oh what the hell lets ask him the code requirement for plug spacing/layout in residential buildings ,and for commercial buildings.
Commercial buildings should be a tough one!
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Commercial buildings should be a tough one!
Would be for me too. If I had to guess, I'd say the residential would be a tough one too....for....SOME (1) of us
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Even better, is it okay to use junction boxes in a resi for retro-fits on electric, along with making splices inside Fuse & Breaker panels. He would have been fun, when we PM'd switchboards, or even better, had to lift a 1ton 3ph motor for the exhaust for one of our engine rooms, four decks up in a 130+ ambient air temp, with 70%+ humidity space, that was about 20x20 in size, with about twenty guys in there trying to not only get the outer steel duct piping lifted and shifted, but then having to manipulate both laterally and vertically at the same time to separate the two.

I am sure that he has done that too, along crawling into a 2x6 space with only 4 feet of headroom to work on a sea valve, due to your idiot seamate (E-5 at that), decided to twist the Pitsword (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_sword) inside the valve, in turn causing the gaskets that seal the top plate and the valve into the gate valve. Only thing stopping the water was the sword, and the fact that we had a ballast space pump running at full force to keep our shop from flooding. And then after getting done with that, going out and fixing a problem with the windbirds. Boy, I think that I had more full days in 24 hours, than he probably has, in my four years in the Navy.

Yes, I too learned after getting out, that at 22 you do not need to stress out about the little stuff, due to it drove me batty trying to act like I knew everything at that age, when I learned real quick, that you better listen to the senior crew members, and the chiefs from all trades on board.
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Batter up? wheres he at anyway?
Maybe its his day to carry the suitcase with the code book in it

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Even better, is it okay to use junction boxes in a resi for retro-fits on electric, along with making splices inside Fuse & Breaker panels. He would have been fun, when we PM'd switchboards, or even better, had to lift a 1ton 3ph motor for the exhaust for one of our engine rooms, four decks up in a 130+ ambient air temp, with 70%+ humidity space, that was about 20x20 in size, with about twenty guys in there trying to not only get the outer steel duct piping lifted and shifted, but then having to manipulate both laterally and vertically at the same time to separate the two.

I am sure that he has done that too, along crawling into a 2x6 space with only 4 feet of headroom to work on a sea valve, due to your idiot seamate (E-5 at that), decided to twist the Pitsword (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_sword) inside the valve, in turn causing the gaskets that seal the top plate and the valve into the gate valve. Only thing stopping the water was the sword, and the fact that we had a ballast space pump running at full force to keep our shop from flooding. And then after getting done with that, going out and fixing a problem with the windbirds. Boy, I think that I had more full days in 24 hours, than he probably has, in my four years in the Navy.

Yes, I too learned after getting out, that at 22 you do not need to stress out about the little stuff, due to it drove me batty trying to act like I knew everything at that age, when I learned real quick, that you better listen to the senior crew members, and the chiefs from all trades on board.
I went in the Army at 17 wanting to get away from home,took me all of about 15 minutes to realize there were much bigger pricks in the world than dear old dad!
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50 years because that is what a Plumber told me, it takes 50 years Plumbing Experience to truly know WTF you're doing. A Plumber who's been a Plumber for 55 years going on 56 in the Plumbing Trade told me that.



You suck. OSHA requires an 8 hour class, one test every 4 hours of the class, and then 45 minute handson, and then a final test for operating it, and a final test on paper. I wish I were an old timer...

And yeah, OSHA requires 2hrs minimum to get certified for HILTI-Powder Actuated Tools. and 15 minutes of additional training for each additional tool. Because they require you to know specific characteristics of each Powder Actuated Tool, and proper applications for it. And basic identification of Fasteners and Safety Procedures (so you don't shoot johnny on the other side of the wall in the head)
Anybody who would shoot jonny in the head through a wall with a ramset is total dumbass,why waste the shell and pin on jonny?
If hes that much of a pain in the ass id go to the other side of wall and push him off his ladder or just hit him with a hammer to shut him up!

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