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Old 10-01-2011, 05:55 PM   #31
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Oh brother, thanks for the heads up. Im pretty sure no light was posted before my post.

Therefore one offers advice, op posts pic utilizing advice so the post is deleted. Shifty.

To the op. You will over come your fears quickly if you get some estimates from contractors to do what you want done. Just a thought. Best wishes.
Yes, the urge to get down there, rid my fears and complete the job is pretty severe, I have estimates.
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I hate spiders........so I take a stick with me to clear a path....I know the spiders are more afraid of me than I of them.....at least that is what I tell myself.
That is true, except for the Brown Recluse, which is an aggressive 8 legged beast, and the bite will harm.
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Do I see dangling electrical cables in that picture
Those are phone lines

There will be no dangling when I am done. :-)

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That is true, except for the Brown Recluse, which is an aggressive 8 legged beast, and the bite will harm.
My wife was bitten by one of those years ago. It was serious. Left a permanent scare/divot.
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A not too funny thing I read about those is that a SECOND bite from them can be deadly.
Usually not a first one though..... go figure.

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If you and I are that job: Guess who is going in?

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My wife was bitten by one of those years ago. It was serious. Left a permanent scare/divot.
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A not too funny thing I read about those is that a SECOND bite from them can be deadly.
Usually not a first one though..... go figure.

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My biggest fear is the Hayward fault rupturing while I'm down there. Its literally 2 blocks away. Oh and black widow's
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Didn't see any insulation at the floor level and no vapor barrier on the dirt floor. Noticed some moisture evidence on the joists. Might want to do more than wiring while you're down there.
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Didn't see any insulation at the floor level and no vapor barrier on the dirt floor. Noticed some moisture evidence on the joists. Might want to do more than wiring while you're down there.
That's correct, no vapor barrier, just dirt floor. Home is a 50's.

The photo was taken last winter, some rain gets under there from the entrance, hence wet floor.

Part of urge to go in is to do an inspection even though I am not quite sure how to look for leakage that stained the joists.
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The best solution is Octopus cable, so that you do not have to pull and tape the runs going to each location into a bundle, and end up going back and forth to straighten up the tangled mess.

How many runs of coax and ethernet are you pulling? Do you have a central location that you are going to pull everything into a patch panel? Here are the various patch panels for cat-5/cat-6 http://www.monoprice.com/products/se...+panel&x=0&y=0
http://www.computercablestore.com/Co...catID1145.aspx
CATV distribution splitters http://www.mjsales.net/items.asp?Fam...=270&Cat2ID=95

As for the crawlspace, I have been in some really bad ones, and yours is no way near some of the worst that I have seen.
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The best solution is Octopus cable, so that you do not have to pull and tape the runs going to each location into a bundle, and end up going back and forth to straighten up the tangled mess.

How many runs of coax and ethernet are you pulling? Do you have a central location that you are going to pull everything into a patch panel? Here are the various patch panels for cat-5/cat-6 http://www.monoprice.com/products/se...+panel&x=0&y=0
http://www.computercablestore.com/Co...catID1145.aspx
CATV distribution splitters http://www.mjsales.net/items.asp?Fam...=270&Cat2ID=95

As for the crawlspace, I have been in some really bad ones, and yours is no way near some of the worst that I have seen.
Thanks for the octopus cable idea, I will look into it.

I will be doing 4 drops linking to a central panel in the garage.

Each drop will have 1 coax, 1 cat5 for phone and 1 cat5e for data. The drop in my home office will have 5 additional cate5e and the drop for the tv will have an additional cat5e so that the tv & bluray are both wired.
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I would not put the network stuff out in the garage. If you have a utility room, place it there instead. Problem with garages, is after a while, the switches & router will go bad from the environment. Plus, if you place in a utility room, you can place a wifi ap at that point, or your wifi router, so you can use a mixed network.

As for the drops, figure one coax for each location, min. two ethernet, maybe four for the tv. I have two at my living room tv, and really need four for that location.
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They have it outside by the bricks/fencing. I had a bad rat problem in my house before putting that up all around the crawl space. I haven't seen or heard one since (2 years). Still had squirels getting in the attic but they pretty much stay up in the attic. From the looks of it, you're crawl space is pretty wide open so you shouldn't be surprised by any creatures. Just light it up and carry a stick if you want. More likely, your attic is a preferred home to creatures. I've found 9 dead rats in the attic (previous owner used poison) and seen several squirrels, and had about 70 bats living in there recently. I spent many weekends in my crawl space and never saw anything...except a dead possum.
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Still had squirels getting in but they pretty much stay up in the attic...... I've found 9 dead rats in the attic and seen several squirrels, and had about 70 bats living in there recently.....
If there are that many dead, imagine how many live ones there are! Are you Dr. Doolittle or PETA? I'd be sealing that attic up asap!! The thought of that many critters up there makes me cringe and want to reach for the shotgun.
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