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Old 02-22-2009, 05:05 PM   #1
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Fan on non-fan rated box


I took down a ceiling fan to inspect how it was installed. What I found is a 4" square box with a fixture mud ring (Similar to a RACO 756). According to what I've found online, a mud ring like that from RACO, for instance, is rated to support 50 pounds of a static load. The fan bracket is simply screwed to the mud ring ears. I'm not sure how the 4" box is attached to the framing. No screws through the back of the box that I can see, so I'm gussing it has a side bracket. Judging by the mud and paint splatters inside the box, it must have been installed during the construction of the house and used to support a light fixture originally. Should I just leave it as is and not even worry about it since it hasn't fallen down yet? I'm not sure how this could even be corrected since it's in a vaulted ceiling and there's really no way to access it from the attic.

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Old 02-22-2009, 05:37 PM   #2
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If the box is securely mounted to the framing it's only a technical foul in my opinion.

The difference between a fan box and this 4square/mud ring is the size of the screws...10/32 vs 8/32. If I feel the box is securely mounted tio the framing I don't worry about it.

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Look what was holding the box up for my fan to a 2x4 bracer



I can't believe its been like this for 8+ years.
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Old 02-22-2009, 05:46 PM   #4
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I dont want to agree with 220, so I say just lag the fan bracket through the existing box into the structure and call it a day. If in fact framing is behind the box.
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I dont want to agree with 220
What? Hell hasn't frozen over

A) There isn't likely to be framing behind the box.

B) If there was, it's tough to find/drill a hole in the box to accept the screw.

I could easily hang my fat ass off a couple of 8/32's . Next time you are doing demo, try and pull a screw out of a mud ring.
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Old 02-22-2009, 06:00 PM   #6
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What? Hell hasn't frozen over

A) There isn't likely to be framing behind the box.

B) If there was, it's tough to find/drill a hole in the box to accept the screw.

I could easily hang my fat ass off a couple of 8/32's . Next time you are doing demo, try and pull a screw out of a mud ring.

I know, but I just cant bear to tell someone to do something not code compliant.
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