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Old 05-20-2010, 09:40 PM   #31
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I've never installed a Temp power pole setup
Costs vary by area

The problem here is that the electrical system in the house is disconnected & a mess
The Inspector expected to see a fully wired house that needed to inspect before power could be turned back on
It was not in any condition to allow power to be turned back on
If the Inspector had approved it the Town/City could be held liable

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I've never installed a Temp power pole setup
Costs vary by area

The problem here is that the electrical system in the house is disconnected & a mess
The Inspector expected to see a fully wired house that needed to inspect before power could be turned back on
It was not in any condition to allow power to be turned back on
If the Inspector had approved it the Town/City could be held liable

Thank you everyone for all the help. A neighbor sugested that It might be better to do all the work myself. Then call an electrician to inspect all work that has been done. Have an electrician pull the permit and make all the final connectiuons to the breaker box and outside disconnect.

In the event It is found out that I did the work prior to pulling a permit the fine is $100 dollars. If all the circuts are true and correct per the electrician. Nothing in the code or ordanince suggestes that they will make me rip it all out. I also can't seem to find anything that suggests fines per cost of work.

A re-inspection fee of $100.00 shall be assessed and added to
the cost of a Permit when construction, demolition or installation work

is begun prior to the issuance of a Permit.

I don't mean to come across shady... I just don't have the money to pay an electrician for a complete re-wire. Im basicly gonna be home less June 2nd. I have to do something. I can't just say oh well I guess Im gonna live with no hotwater and light. (weird I keep hearing the little house on the prarie theme song in my head)

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Old 05-21-2010, 08:56 AM   #33
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Good luck finding an electrician that put his name on your work. That's a big liability.
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Old 05-21-2010, 10:15 AM   #34
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You may have a problem if you do the work yourself then try to get an electrician to sign off
I'd bet the Inspector will discuss the house with the electrician
It may very well end up costing you more in the long run once they find out
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Just so we're clear here....

The second an electrician comes in and LOOKS at the work you've done and signed off on it... he is basicly saying that the work performed is HIS WORK.

What you discussed eariler in the thread is the exact same thing!

The electrician would have to basicly lie to the inspector and say that he did the work.

Because of where you live you really have two options...

1. Bite the bullet and pay the electrician to do the work.

2. Ask one of the electricians on the list if he'd be willing to do what you want and hope he doesn't say no and tell the inspector on you!

For this very reason I am talking to the building inspectors in the areas i'm looking at buying a home :-x
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At the risk of stating the obvious here: Doing something that has the serious possibility of pissing off the inspector is not your best interest at the moment.

Further:
1) Pulling a permit yourself and then paying someone else to do the job is, shall we say, poor form.
2) Much of this problem could have been avoided if you had discussed the detail of the current state of the house, and what exactly, you were going do before pulling permit in the first place.
3) I'm not all sure you should being electrical work. I say this as a strong supporter of diy electrical, but its just not the right choice for everyone.
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I bought my last house at about 25% of its value
People were selling it to avoid foreclosure (1997)
Before I bought it I went to the Building Inspector & asked him if he had any issues with the house

He wanted a fridge moved from the yard -door still on!!
Front deck they tried to make into a room, started to frame - he said No go
Wanted the shed moved from the side yard - too close to my house, fire bridge to next house

I took care of all 3 things within the 1st week, fridge the 1st day
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I think the key here is the owner occupied part.

What you should do is go down to the building department itself and ask to speak to the guy in charge - make an appointment if you need to. You have a sob story and are currently caught between a rock and a hard place. If you bought the place for $10,000, I suspect the city would have a bias toward WANTING to put people in homes in their tax base.

Find out exactly what needs to be done so that you have a minimum to get started on the rest - be it a temp pole or just redoing the GCFI breaker in the ceiling. Make it clear you alone will be doing the work and not hiring it out as the owner occupier of the building.

I had a similar surprise during an inspection myself. The guy who came out would not approve of my choice of using heavy screws for framing. I talked to the head of the building department, showed him some of my research and findings and detailed my construction techniques. He made a personal onsite visit and we talked more then. Basically, he took over the permit approval and signed off on it for me.
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While that MAY work I wouldn't hold my breath.

The OP has talked to the building dept and they have already given him a list of contractors to call for work... they have already said that homeowners cannot pull permits.

The city cannot change policy on a random occasion because if something does go wrong they will be held liable for it!
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He's talked to the receptionist and the guy who goes out to do the inspections. He needs to have a conversation with the top dog, because all he can hope to get out of the others is the standard party line.
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I have a licensed electrician coming out at 7pm and two more tomorrow to give me a quote. The electrician knows the inspector that came out. His first comment about the inspector was "yeah that guy is really tough to pass on the first try he nit picks everyting."

I made it clear to the electricians that are comming that they must be able to pull a permit with this township.

Wish me luck.
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He would red flag you cause it's his job. The home in your words is 'decent' but it is not legally habitable with one outlet and one light. The state has a vested interest in disallowing people to live in homes that are not fit for habitation.
Of course, the irony is that since he is unemployed and his lease is up, he will either have to illegally "squat" in his own home or live on the street.
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Of course, the irony is that since he is unemployed and his lease is up, he will either have to illegally "squat" in his own home or live on the street.
time for a tent in yard
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Good luck, hope everything works out OK
Perhaps at the very least you can do some of the "non-electric"
Like pulling out the K&T, getting rid of the floor outlet
Maybe even assist the electrician as a helper
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Good luck, hope everything works out OK
Perhaps at the very least you can do some of the "non-electric"
Like pulling out the K&T, getting rid of the floor outlet
Maybe even assist the electrician as a helper
Exactly what I was thinking: Do the stupid easy grunt work, drill all the holes for the wires to feed through, let sparky do the pigtails.

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