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WillK 06-05-2011 09:54 PM

Extra wire in conduit body allowable?
 
50' spool for a 40' run, I pulled my wire into the building on each end, made my splices, forgot to pull the excess through and cut it off... This is 14 ga. THWN and it is tucked into a 2" conduit body, the splices are in 8x8 junction boxes.

Inspection tommorrow afternoon, too tired to go on, I take our kindergartener to school in the morning and have to entertain the 4 year old girl, so I won't have much chance to work.

I know splices aren't supposed to be in conduit bodies, but the body is so much bigger than these wires... Is there any code issue? I feel like I'd clean it up if I had more time and energy, but I am at the point I'm not staying awake typing full sentences.

SD515 06-05-2011 10:15 PM

I guess I don’t understand the question. You made the splice in the 8by j-box, but put the extra, unspliced in the LB? Or is the splice in the LB?

SD515 06-05-2011 10:21 PM

A conduit body that is durably and legibly marked by the manufacturer with its volume is allowed to contain splices, with box fill allowances per 314.16 (B) followed, if that’s your question. 314.16 (C)(2)

Jim Port 06-05-2011 10:24 PM

Sounds like there is just extra conductor in the fitting.

SD515 06-05-2011 10:28 PM

That's what I thought too, but wasn't sure.

SD515 06-05-2011 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WillK (Post 661822)
50' spool for a 40' run,

Also wasn't sure if he means a few inches or 10 feet.

WillK 06-05-2011 10:37 PM

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I did fall asleep in my chair, since I got so many responses so quick and I have a second wind for now I went out and got a picture.

I just felt like this was something I'd have rather cleaned up, but I'm just too tired and if I had the time and energy before inspection to do any work, there's higher priorities.

sirsparksalot 06-05-2011 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WillK (Post 661856)
I did fall asleep in my chair, since I got so many responses so quick and I have a second wind for now I went out and got a picture.

I just felt like this was something I'd have rather cleaned up, but I'm just too tired and if I had the time and energy before inspection to do any work, there's higher priorities.

I'm gonna try and find the definitive answer, but I've no idea why a splice in the LB would be a violation. Wish I knew the Code Chapters better.

sirsparksalot 06-05-2011 11:45 PM

As Kyle stated, the LB has to have the Fill information stamped on it.


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314.16(C)(2) With Splices, Taps, or Devices.
Only those conduit bodies that are durably and legibly marked by the manufacturer with their volume shall be permitted to contain splices, taps, or devices. The maximum number of conductors shall be calculated in accordance with 314.16(B). Conduit bodies shall be supported in a rigid and secure manner.




J. V. 06-06-2011 10:45 AM

The OP had this wire left over in the LB as he did not pull the slack out before he made up each end, Right? If you can disconnect one end and pull the slack out great if not that's okay too. It's fine. I doubt you are anywhere close to over fill.

WillK 06-06-2011 11:53 AM

Thanks, glad to know it's okay... This was mostly a matter of running out of time. Now that I've moved back the inspection to Weds, I'm sure I'll just take out the excess.

For anyone else following the saga, I got to the building office while the electrical inspector was in back talking with the chief building official (same guy I came to talk to) and I overheard him saying I had admitted I wasn't qualified to do this work and so forth (which is not true). I simply explained that I have no problem doing whatever the inspector requires whether it's in code or not, the building chief said they can't require anything beyond code. I walked him through all the complaints and how he could've pointed all of them out at the first inspection but did not, and how some of them were invalid - such as the ground rods he didn't even look at and the NM cable staples that code doesn't require, and which would have to be stapled sideways which is a code violation.

So he's granted me 1 more rough inspection without a reinspect fee, which is what I was after.


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