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Old 05-05-2013, 10:32 PM   #16
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They are there, because of how the european wiring system is. Some systems are three phase, others are single phase, depending on the country. But at the age of the fixture, I would have to say that the wiring was designed most likely for three phase.
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A small correction to ya this conferation is NOT triphase hook up at all only monophase with split lighting level.

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frenchelectrician: I sincerely appreciate your reply!

I'm just a DIY home-owner. I must ask, are fixtures with channels for wires, nothing more than ... just copper wires running between connection points? I mean, the real issue here is the voltage (110 vs 220 ~) and the lamp/bulb type one uses. I hate the discussion being about trusted/tested (UL) or European vs US. You did loose me a bit on the ampacity rating. I am assuming this is referring to the thickness of the wire and how much amp it can *safely* transfer. If these wires are indeed too small for 12 lamps, I would suspect this is the reason for the additional wires (as one would not want multiple "switching" for a single chandelier). You indicated it IS setup this way. So the manufacture made it this way but it isn't how I want it (just want a single switch).

You suggest re-wiring to American conductors. What specific parts are you referring to? The screw down connectors? If so, I could just cut those off and use wire nuts, right? Making sure.

I believe I can simply connect all one side of the lamps to one side of my existing wire and the other side to the other wire and this should work. Using whatever wires, or not, in the conduit/channel of the fixture.

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Old 05-05-2013, 10:53 PM   #18
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frenchelectrician: I sincerely appreciate your reply!

I'm just a DIY home-owner. I must ask, are fixtures with channels for wires, nothing more than ... just copper wires running between connection points? I mean, the real issue here is the voltage (110 vs 220 ~) and the lamp/bulb type one uses. I hate the discussion being about trusted/tested (UL) or European vs US. You did loose me a bit on the ampacity rating. I am assuming this is referring to the thickness of the wire and how much amp it can *safely* transfer. If these wires are indeed too small for 12 lamps, I would suspect this is the reason for the additional wires (as one would not want multiple "switching" for a single chandelier). You indicated it IS setup this way. So the manufacture made it this way but it isn't how I want it (just want a single switch).

You suggest re-wiring to American conductors. What specific parts are you referring to? The screw down connectors? If so, I could just cut those off and use wire nuts, right? Making sure.

I believe I can simply connect all one side of the lamps to one side of my existing wire and the other side to the other wire and this should work. Using whatever wires, or not, in the conduit/channel of the fixture.

Merci.
I did wrote the underline that part and Oui that will affect how much current it can carry thru the conductor ( wire ) and with that size of exsting conductor the 1.0mm2 is only good for about 4 amp the most depending on the conductor insulating rating so that one key reason why I suggest to rewired to the North Americian format they have larger conductor so it will not be a issue espcally when someone stick in full 60 watts bulbs X12 which it will be 720 watts which it is allready over the limit of our European speces ( if used on 120 volt circuit with 120 volts bulbs )

If you have good local lamp supply centre they will be more than happy to get this wired up for you with correct parts and they can change from European E16 sockets to North Americian E17 sockets.

Bon Chance.

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