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Old 11-11-2008, 07:07 PM   #31
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Over react much?


I'm an electrician. I have been most of my adult life. I HATE handymen doing electrical work. I just repaired some handywork today.

With that being said Silk, quit being a douchebag.


My answer would be similar to Handymans.
Then I would have to say that you are as ignorant as the handyman, and a douchebag to boot.

The breaker tripping did nothing to either help or hurt the child, so it didn't do it's job in protecting the kid if that is what you think the job of a breaker is. In this case the kid probably wasn't grounded, next time he might be, to tell people that this OK besause the breaker tripped is the stupidest thing I have ever heard, but I'm getting used to that from you.

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Old 11-11-2008, 07:07 PM   #32
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Is everyone having their periods today?


Using the info we have, please tell me how the kid could have been hurt?

Electricity,in this case, cant go into you, it has to go thru you.....right?

I'll wait.

So your actually going to debate this?
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:09 PM   #33
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Is everyone having their periods today?


Using the info we have, please tell me how the kid could have been killed?

Electricity,in this case, cant go into you, it has to go thru you.....right?

I'll wait.

Edited to change hurt to killed

If you really want me to tell you I will, but it will just make you look like even more MODERATOR EDIT. So are you game.
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:11 PM   #34
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I'm waiting.
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:15 PM   #35
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The kid is looking at the switch, maybe touching it with his right hand, his hand is in contact with the yoke of the switch. He now takes the can opener in his left hand and touches the screw with it. His heart is now directly in series with the hot through his heart and body to the metal box which is bonded to the neutral in the panel completing the circuit. The breaker will not trip and he will stay energized. Whether it kills him or not, who knows, can it kill him, yes.

Do you now look like an ass, completely.
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:25 PM   #36
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You are making **** up.


Stay with the facts MODERATOR EDIT.

The kid stuck a paint can opener in the switch box, not his finger.

Capice?


You might as well put him barefoot standing in salt water with a #4 copper wire attached to his big toe and the service neutral. If you are going to change the story, go big


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The breaker tripping did nothing to either help or hurt the child
Explain to the folks at home what may have happened if the breaker did not trip? Wait...I already did. There would have been much more of an arc and likely burns on his hands....at least.

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Old 11-11-2008, 07:28 PM   #37
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You will never learn anything with that attitude. I said he is holding the can opener in his left hand, not using his finger.

You're playing a losing hand, do you still want to play?
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:37 PM   #38
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I said he is holding the can opener in his left hand, not using his finger.

That would have been awkward as the screw terminals were likely to be on the right hand side of the switch




You are throwing in things that are not part of the equation.

All we know is that the kid stuck a metal tool into a sw box and tripped the breaker....right?

Question asked....could he have been killed....NOT could he have been killed if this or that.

I made assumptions (insulation via shoes/carpet) in my reply and qualified them for different conditions so the uneducated posters could better understand electricity.

You can beat your chest here all day long and it just make me laugh more.

Have another Jack Daniels or take a couple of Midol and settle down.
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:42 PM   #39
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You asked me to explain to you how the current could go through the child. I answered you. It has nothing to do with carpet or insulation.

You ask me to teach you, and then you get upset instead of learning. I really don't understand you, although if I did, I would probably be as ignorant as you so it's probably a good thing.
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You asked me to explain to you how the current could go through the child.
Reading comprehension 101. You did the same thing you did in response to Handyman. You misinterpeted.

I asked you:


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Using the info we have, please tell me how the kid could have been killed?
There is no debate whether or not electricity can kill kids. The question was in this case.
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The question from the beginning was hypothetical because the kid is alive. The question raised the possibility of whether a kid could get electrocuted with a can opener in a light switch. The answer is yes under many possible conditions.

Talk about comprehension. Do you understand the question was hypothetical to begin with. Is any answer that says the kid would be safe by touching a hot wire with another conductor correct. Of course not. Is anybody that says it is safe correct. Of course not. Is anybody that says it is safe intelligent, of cours not. Are you intelligent, of course not.

Can you comprehend that?
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The argumentative nature of this thread has gone out of hand. I've edited out some of the name calling. This thread is now locked, so people can calm down.

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