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Old 12-14-2008, 03:17 PM   #16
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A linemens plier.
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Old 12-14-2008, 03:46 PM   #17
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A side cutter

A linemens plier.
Good visual check. Just like I suspected. The first pliers we call dikes, that is, "diagonal cutting"

The second pliers we call "side cutters", "kleins", "nines", "lineman's", etc.

I bought a set of multipurpose kleins myself. In addition to cutting and twisting wires, mine are also a hammer, a wrench, a pry bar, screw cutter, sheetrock remover, pipe reamer, and jumper wire.
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Diagonal-cutting pliers
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definately regional dialect. things have different names all over the country and canada. it dosent make it wrong, just different.
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When you buy lineman's pliers the package will say x" side sutting pliers. Diaganal cutting pliers are also called dikes.
Around here 'dikes' are masculine lesbians! We prefer 'diges' when referring to side cutting pliers, without jaws! lol!

And I prefer 'IDEAL' line pliers, rather than "KLEINS'. They have a built in crimper!
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okay guys,,,here my dad alway called the dkes,,,'side nippers',,,cause the PRIMARY purpose was to cut the eye teeth of baby pigs so they didnt chew others tails,,,,there,,, take THAT one in the big pipe and smoke her!!!

My uncle who was a communications guy always rolled a wire end for a screw install in a needle nose,,,THEN left about 3/8 turned backwards of the hook. He hooked it over the screw,took the needlenose and squeesed the hook shut around the screw using this backward hook,,,then tightened the screw and took a dikes (Side-nippers HERE)_,,,and cut off excess. Is that how all the pros DO IT!!!??? My BIGGEST gripe is #12 wire rarely fits over the amount of screw they make outlets with,especially recessed ones like a gfi,,,you have to fight them awful hard,,,how hard would it be to give us an extra round or two of screw?? AND green ground screws you can put 2 wires on!!!
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okay guys,,,here my dad alway called the dkes,,,'side nippers',,,cause the PRIMARY purpose was to cut the eye teeth of baby pigs so they didnt chew others tails,,,,there,,, take THAT one in the big pipe and smoke her!!!

My uncle who was a communications guy always rolled a wire end for a screw install in a needle nose,,,THEN left about 3/8 turned backwards of the hook. He hooked it over the screw,took the needlenose and squeesed the hook shut around the screw using this backward hook,,,then tightened the screw and took a dikes (Side-nippers HERE)_,,,and cut off excess. Is that how all the pros DO IT!!!??? My BIGGEST gripe is #12 wire rarely fits over the amount of screw they make outlets with,especially recessed ones like a gfi,,,you have to fight them awful hard,,,how hard would it be to give us an extra round or two of screw?? AND green ground screws you can put 2 wires on!!!
My electrical teacher in high school taught us his method of terminating wires onto a screw!
He stripped 3/4" of insulation off. Bent the stripped wire end at a right angle!
Then grasping the end of the wire with needle nose pliers, bent it in a loop, leaving it open enough to slip onto the screw. Then, using the neeedle nose pliers, closed the loop.
This method isn't really time productive, and it took me awhile to unlearn this!
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you can also buy kleins with built in crimpers. they have many different styles o f linemans or side cutting pliers including a fish tape grip for pulling wire.
as for terminating screws you just strip, make your hook and then bend the hook up about 45 degrees or so and it slips right on to the terminal screw. NEVER use stab ins, or wagos for that matter. lets be professional people.
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I was in my local HD the other day, drooling over the Kleins<g>. The "real" ones make mine look like a toy, but they go for about $35. I'll wait and see what Santa brings me<g>
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My electrical teacher in high school taught us his method of terminating wires onto a screw!
He stripped 3/4" of insulation off. Bent the stripped wire end at a right angle!
Then grasping the end of the wire with needle nose pliers, bent it in a loop, leaving it open enough to slip onto the screw. Then, using the neeedle nose pliers, closed the loop.
This method isn't really time productive, and it took me awhile to unlearn this!
So there is some other "right" way to do it? This is the only way I wire up outlets (unless they are clamp down).

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you can also buy kleins with built in crimpers. they have many different styles o f linemans or side cutting pliers including a fish tape grip for pulling wire.
as for terminating screws you just strip, make your hook and then bend the hook up about 45 degrees or so and it slips right on to the terminal screw. NEVER use stab ins, or wagos for that matter. lets be professional people.
I've only used the Wago's for temporary connections and for my florescent light fixtures, but many professionals speak highly of them. I still prefer A good solid twisted connection and use it for virtually everything. But for people that don't know how to properly twist together a connection the wagos may be a better option.

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