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Old 01-17-2012, 02:15 PM   #1
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Hi All,

I just had an electrician give me an estimate to put in a new panel and all new breakers. He told me he couldn't see anywhere it was grounded and I would require 2 rods in the back yard as well as bonding to my water line.

Is this padding a price or is this legit?

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I just had an electrician give me an estimate to put in a new panel and all new breakers. He told me he couldn't see anywhere it was grounded and I would require 2 rods in the back yard as well as bonding to my water line.

Is this padding a price or is this legit?
Legit if there arent any ground rods

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We are not there, so we can't tell.
Call for another estimite and see what he says.
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That isn't going to add that much to the cost anyways, or at least it shouldn't. Ground rods can be cheap (depending on material) and not much labor is involved in pounding them into the dirt.

Sounds legit to me, but I would verify by looking at the panel when he has it open and see if there is a large bare copper wire that exits the panel.
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The new panel needs to meet todays code requirements. Before you could ground to an accessible part of the water line, now it must go to within 5' of where the pipe eneters the building.

Even if there was one rod another might need to be added.

I am not there but what was said sounds kosher.
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Don't trust him. All electricians are crooks!
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I'm shocked ... just shocked ...


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Hi All,

I just had an electrician give me an estimate to put in a new panel and all new breakers. He told me he couldn't see anywhere it was grounded and I would require 2 rods in the back yard as well as bonding to my water line.

Is this padding a price or is this legit?
So, what is his/her price?
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He told me he couldn't see anywhere it was grounded and I would require 2 rods...
Can you see the rods?
Can you see where any heavy gauge solid copper grounding wire exists?
(from the panel and usually downward)
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All??? I know you are but how about me?
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At least one rod is required everywhere. Some areas have poor soil conditions, and require two. And connection to the metal water pipe is also required.
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Sounds very legit, I did my own cold water bond but left the ground rods to my electrician as he already had a jackhammer to run them in.
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The grounding rods are a legit requirement - if you do not have them = and yes, there are 2 rods required min. 6' apart.
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At least one rod is required everywhere. Some areas have poor soil conditions, and require two.
Rods are not required per se, but are a quick and cheap solution.

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And connection to the metal water pipe is also required.
Yes, if it qualifies as an electrode

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The grounding rods are a legit requirement - if you do not have them = and yes, there are 2 rods required min. 6' apart.
Supplementing the water pipe electrode with rods is one method, but there are others.

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