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AnnaBurgos725 08-22-2012 09:47 AM

Electrical wiring mess up
 
I need Help, I had a contractor come to my house and bulid an addition onto my house.
Well he took 3 light and ran it off the kitchen power source, so now what happens is when i turn off the kitchen light it turns off the other 2 lights in the new part of the house.
I want to remove those 2 other light off the kitchen switch how do I do that, HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anna Burgos725

rjniles 08-22-2012 09:57 AM

Call the contractor back to fix it. was this work dome with building and electrical permits?

joed 08-22-2012 02:42 PM

You need to find a source of unswitched power for your addition. That source could be in the existing fixture or you could need to run the cable to whole new location. Only someone on site can tell that.

dmxtothemax 08-22-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnaBurgos725 (Post 993934)
I need Help, I had a contractor come to my house and bulid an addition onto my house.
Well he took 3 light and ran it off the kitchen power source, so now what happens is when i turn off the kitchen light it turns off the other 2 lights in the new part of the house.
I want to remove those 2 other light off the kitchen switch how do I do that, HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anna Burgos725

Here's what we need to know ?

1 - Can it be changed by you ?

2 - Where there any permits involved ?

3 - Did the wires for the new lights come from
the kitchen light fitting or the switch ?

4 - Is there a neutral at the switch ?

If you dont know,
post pics of the wiring at kitchen switch and fitting.

I suspect the wiring comes from the light fitting,
this is where the neutral is and it would explain why
the lights go off.
But you need to come from the switch, to get a permanent hot.
But you also need a neutral, which might not be at the switch,
if they are using a switch loop !

So we need to find out if there is a neutral at the switch !
Pis's of switch wiring would help heaps !

dogris 08-22-2012 10:29 PM

Some contractor! Well at least the light bulbs didn't fill with water!

AnnaBurgos725 08-23-2012 07:08 AM

wiring mess up
 
The contractor won't come back, why I don't no..and yes there were permits involved.

Now, yes I can change it myself
yes, there were permits involved
it came from the kitchen light fitting
no neutral at the switch
the wiring came from the lights

which means I will have to run some new wire and connect to a hold new switch, in order to take it off the kitchen switch, right? I want those lights to run off there own switch and not be controled off the kitchen switch

Anna:furious:

joed 08-23-2012 07:37 AM

You need to tell us about the wires in the fixture where he took power from. It could be very simple to just switch two wires.

andrew79 08-23-2012 08:00 AM

Errrr if there were permits it should have been inspected. File a complaint.

AnnaBurgos725 08-23-2012 08:05 AM

wire mess up
 
he took the power from the existing light that was in the kitchen. he took 2 lights from the new area bulit on, and connected the 2 new light together, then took those 2 new light and ran the wire into my already exisiting kitchen light and wired it all together. so now when you turn on the kitchen light the other 2 new lights come on with the kitchen light and go off when i turn the kitchen light on, get it...........
i don't want 3 light connected to one switch get it, the dummpy contractor was suppose to give each light there on switch, but instead he added it all onto one switch witch was the kitchen switch. so now i'm trying to re-route this so that all 3 lights will have there own switch, got it..lol crazy right

Anna

joed 08-23-2012 12:41 PM

Inspector will not verify functionality. He will only verify code certified installation.

If you can open the fixture in the kitchen where he made the connections and tell us all the wire connections then it might be as simple a swapping two wires. Or take a picture show us all the wires in the fixture.

andrew79 08-23-2012 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joed
Inspector will not verify functionality. He will only verify code certified installation.

If you can open the fixture in the kitchen where he made the connections and tell us all the wire connections then it might be as simple a swapping two wires. Or take a picture show us all the wires in the fixture.

What I was getting at was that of it was inspected and permitted then it should have been a licensed electrical contractor. There must be a governing body in the states where you can file a complaint.

dmxtothemax 08-23-2012 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnaBurgos725 (Post 994564)
The contractor won't come back, why I don't no..and yes there were permits involved.

Now, yes I can change it myself
yes, there were permits involved
it came from the kitchen light fitting
no neutral at the switch
the wiring came from the lights

which means I will have to run some new wire and connect to a hold new switch, in order to take it off the kitchen switch, right? I want those lights to run off there own switch and not be controled off the kitchen switch

Anna:furious:

If the power goes to the fitting first, and there is a switch lop from there
then it looks good!
The hot wire for the two new lights (should be black) ,
is connectted to the wrong side of the switch loop.

Use a checker,
check both wires that are the switch loop,
one should be permanent hot,
the other should be on or off depending on the position of the switch,
this wire is where the existing hot probably comes from,
but this is wrong !
it should go to the other side of the switch loop, which is permanent hot.

Be careful, check each and every step before you proceed.
If in doubt, ! don't do it , till you are 100% sure.

A good electricain would sort this one out real quick.

AnnaBurgos725 08-24-2012 07:27 AM

wiring mess up
 
Thanks to everyone, who answered my question and gave me pointers, I fixed it, i'm gonna be the next HGTV fixer winner...
I ran another line and put in another switch to make those lights work on it's own source. I used the hot from the one of the plugs and it work.

Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks everybody
Anna


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