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mccartyls 06-04-2013 03:17 PM

Electrical timer box and sub panel
 
For my pool timer, 220 running in on two legs of 3 wire...so the white and the black are hot and a ground, no nuetral. My old chlorination used to be hard wired into this and ran off 220 as well. However I got a new chlorinator that you simply plug into an outlet. If you were looking at the wall the pool timer that runs the pumps is on the right and about 8 feet to the left is a sub panel box. Could I install an outlet by tapping into a hot from the timer so it will run on the same cycle and then run the neutral and ground from the sub panel? Wanted to avoid installing an additional time just for the chlorination but was not sure if my thinking was sound.

PoleCat 06-04-2013 03:21 PM

How about a transformer?

Jim Port 06-04-2013 04:51 PM

All conductors of the circuit need to be in the same cable or conduit. You cannot grab a neutral and ground from another circuit.

TarheelTerp 06-04-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mccartyls (Post 1195140)
For my pool timer, 220 running in on two legs of 3 wire...
Could I...

Could you run the feed into some sort of sub panel (pretend ground rod grandfathered) and then branch off from there with the 120V and 240V circuits needed. ??

Why yes. Yes, you could.

PoleCat 06-04-2013 05:25 PM

It sounds to me like he wants to run his chlorinator on the same timer as the pump. This makes sense. Couldn't he run a step down transformer off the load side of the timer and run the chlorinator that way?

stickboy1375 06-04-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TarheelTerp (Post 1195205)
Could you run the feed into some sort of sub panel (pretend ground rod grandfathered) and then branch off from there with the 120V and 240V circuits needed. ??

Why yes. Yes, you could.

What is a ground rod grandfathered?

TarheelTerp 06-04-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stickboy1375 (Post 1195219)
What is a ground rod grandfathered?

your answer is right HERE

mpoulton 06-04-2013 09:28 PM

Is this subpanel feeding the timer? What wiring method? It might be easiest to just feed the timer with a 4-wire circuit, and mount a receptacle beside it.

mccartyls 06-04-2013 09:39 PM

You are right pole cat. I want to run everything off the same timer. I bought a little gray box and installed it figuring I would try to sync the two timers, but it seems the clock in the little gray box is not working. Since I need to take it out anyway to return it, I thought I might be able to rig something off the existing timer and get my 50 bucks back.

Good to know I need to run everything off the same circuit and I do have a sub panel close by that I could put another breaker in but that does not solve the two timer issue..I will research the cost of the step down transformer that might be a good solution.

Thank you all for responding.

mccartyls 06-05-2013 09:22 AM

The timer is run from the main box in the garage, but funny I had that same thought last night. I could move the breaker from the garage out to the sub panel, buy 10 feet of 4 wire and mount an outlet box to the bottom of the timer. I think we have a winner!


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