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Old 09-10-2011, 10:25 PM   #16
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Thank you all for your information.

Here is my plan to fix the grounding problem:

1) Put the ground rod on outside close to main service panel (which is fuses panel -- main disconnect?).

2) Connect ground rod to main service panel ground (which also connect to neutral).

3) Since main panel to branch panel (inside the building) doesn't have ground wire, I will pull another ground wire from main panel to the branch panel.

(Is it ok to pull bare copper wire separately from main to branch pannel?)

4) I will add another bus bar on my service panel and move all ground wire which connect to neutral bus bar to it.

Is this sound correct?

Thank you!

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Old 09-10-2011, 11:00 PM   #17
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So what about 3 wire system with ground
Sunny B, this isn't your thread so refrain from asking questions. If you disagree with a response, provide a code reference.
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Sunny B, this isn't your thread so refrain from asking questions. If you disagree with a response, provide a code reference.
You guys r getting tired of me huh? Im just starting out but I go to school and work in the field. I buy books, dvd's, and ask all the questions possible so that I can advance myself as quickly as possible. Sorry if I'm pissing you guys off
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I don’t believe anyone is upset with you, but A7 makes a good point, not to hi-jack another’s thread. We all are happy to answer questions. It’s better to start your own thread, so the OP’s thread can stay on topic and get their questions answered.
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250.24(A)(5) Load-Side Grounding Connections. A grounded conductor
shall not be connected to normally non–currentcarrying
metal parts of equipment, to equipment grounding
conductor(s), or be reconnected to ground on the load side
of the service disconnecting means except as otherwise permitted
in this article.
Why can't this be written in plain english by non-lawyer types? When I read it, it says I can't attach a ground wire to the equipment ground, or the metal on the unit.
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It says you can’t connect a grounded conductor…

Grounded=neutral

Grounded and grounding are not the same.
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I don’t believe anyone is upset with you, but A7 makes a good point, not to hi-jack another’s thread. We all are happy to answer questions. It’s better to start your own thread, so the OP’s thread can stay on topic and get their questions answered.
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cfreak, can you post pictures of your setup? With the covers removed so we can see inside the panels.
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Why can't this be written in plain english by non-lawyer types?
It is a legal document, not a design manual. Welcome to my world.
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Grounded=neutral
Nope, all neutrals are grounded, but not all grounded conductors are neutrals.
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wording my bad
Happens.

I do it a lot.
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Here is the photos:

You will spot more problems
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Happens.

I do it a lot.
All electricians do it. I look at it as a "slang" term

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