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Old 08-14-2013, 08:25 PM   #1
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I noticed that my electrical outlet cover plate and outlet itself is very loose so when I removed it I noticed the bottom threaded piece that you fasten the receptacle to is broken off which only left one. I tried removing the entire box so I could replace it with an old work box but its attached to a stud and unless I open up the wall I don't see how I can remove it. Any ideas?

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Plastic or metal box?

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Plastic or metal box?
metal unfortunately.
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If you want to avoid having to remove the j box,
Try pop riviting a small metal L bracket in to the box
to replace the broken tab.
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If you want to avoid having to remove the j box,
Try pop riviting a small metal L bracket in to the box
to replace the broken tab.
But wouldn't I need a threaded L bracket?
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JB Weld the receptacle in place...
and/or live with it until you have some other reason to go deeper
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But wouldn't I need a threaded L bracket?
If you can find the right sized thread tap,
you could make one.
or-
You could just use a self taping metal screw,
And drill the appropriate hole in the bracket.

It might sound like a lot of work,
But it's far easier than removing and replacing a j box.
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Thread the hole to the next size which is 8/32.
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hi,

... I tried removing the entire box so I could replace it with an old work box but its attached to a stud and unless I open up the wall I don't see how I can remove it...
The experts here can verify this, but I don’t think it’s a hard as you think to remove the old box. I use a heavy work-glove and a hacksaw blade and slip it between the box and the stud. Not very difficult to cut the nails that way. I’ve done quite a few that way.

The experts might not like that way but I believe many people use that method.

p.s. it's been a while lol and now I think - well how did the blade fit inbetween the box and stud? Don't remember the details, but it did work!

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We routinely remove both plastic and metal boxes without having to patch the wall afterwards.

It can be tricky, but we use a sawzall and cut the nails off that holds the box against the stud.

Every blue moon or so I will encounter one with a face bracket instead of side brackets. If that is the case, we cut the bracket off the box, leaving it in place under the drywall/plaster.

Once the old box has been removed, we simply install a new plastic box fastened with drywall screws through the side of the box into the stud.

IF your place has metal conduits instead of flexible cable then you might just have to cut out a large opening in the wall and patch it up afterwards ....
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I recently had to remove a metal outlet box in order to run a new wire down the wall to add a second outlet at the end of a peninsula in a kitchen. In order to remove the box I took a keyhole saw, with the power off, and cut the nails holding the box onto the stud. once this was done I was able to pull the box out, slowly letting the wires out of the box. Then, once the new wire was ran, feed all wires into old work box and install new box in wall. You would never even know it was done. good luck on your project
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Once the old box has been removed, we simply install a new plastic box fastened with drywall screws through the side of the box into the stud.
You know that is a code violation (Ive done it myself)
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You know that is a code violation (Ive done it myself)
They make smart boxes for this application.
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They make smart boxes for this application.
Exactly, and home made ones don't count.
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It's not difficult to remove old metal boxes by using a reciprocating saw and metal blade to cut through the nails. A mini-hacksaw would work too of course.

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