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Old 01-07-2017, 01:07 PM   #1
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I have a junction box full of wires, the first wire coming in has a red,black, and a white. The second has a black and a white. The third is a jumper white from somewhere that has the black hooked up to a white and that's how my lights work how can I eliminate some of the mess and get it back to normal. Then when I looked their is a box with two wires coming into it. Mass confusion for this guy.
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:20 PM   #2
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First off, I don't know what you mean by getting the box back to "normal". Maybe you can describe what you are trying to accomplish. I suggest you look at the wire connections, looks like two of the connections are done using electrical tape, this is not acceptable, you need a wire nut or other UL listed connector for any connection. If the setup works, I would put the proper connectors on, and leave it be.

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You appear to a have a mix of newer cable (2 conductors + ground) and older cable w/o ground. If you are just trying to clean it up:

-install approved box connector for each cable
-replace the taped connections with wirenuts or other approved connectors
-pull/cut the 2 new (white) cables back so that only about 1/2" of plastic sheathing protrudes into the box.
-you will have no grounding continuity with all the circuits because of the older cables. I would at least tie the bare grounds to each other and the box, although I'm not sure what good it would do. Others with more knowledge will likely have other thoughts.

I'm not sure if there was a question re the 2nd photo. It looks like an old surface mounted Bakelite fixture with the cover removed, but it is mounted on the side of the stud, which is odd.

Ditto for the 3rd photo - was there a question? If the red is the other end of the red in photo #1 it is unused (although there is a red conductor in #2 but I can tell any of the connections from the photo).
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If you are serious.... you gonna hafta hire a pro.
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QUOTE [ First off, I don't know what you mean by getting the box back to "normal". Maybe you can describe what you are trying to accomplish ]

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You could try gas lighting to get rid of all those wires.

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