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Old 04-22-2013, 10:16 PM   #1
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I have some basic questions about lightning that I'm setting up. I decided to start growing my own vegetables throughout the year. It rains here a great deal so 9 months out of the year I would like to grow indoors.



1.The max wattage for the extension cord is 1650Watts so would I be safe if the bulbs combined wattage is under the specified amount? (do i use cfl watts or equivalent incandescent watts to determine?) I know this light design may not be the most efficient, but do you see any potential hazard? Too many lights for one socket?



will be using eight 23watts (100watt equivalent) in 7 y sockets and 1 outlet attached to one extension cord outgoing to a surge protector. Which will have another extension cord providing energy source for another one of these

2. I would really like to do a different setup, but I'm unsure how to wire properly. Is there a resource online one can point me too for simple wiring or is there a rule of thumb? (white to white?) Pretty much everything I need to know to avoid a hazardous situation. (amps, etc.)


These are my main question that will help me guide into building lighting systems for my garden. Thanks a bunch


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Why would you use something that dodgy when you can buy
larger type CFL lamps ?
you can try 48 w or 105w CFL's.
much safer !
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this is to much power then? super dangerous? how about 1 extension cord to 3 y sockets for a total of four lights? would this be safer? Thanks

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would something like this be safer?

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Just use ONE large CFL !
Forget the little ones,
I'am talking about the larger one's !
48w or 105w.
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Without knowing the details of your setup, I would suggest getting a couple 4ft shop lights, something like this...

http://www.lowes.com/pd_420865-43921...ght&facetInfo=

They're fairly cheap and will spread the light much more evenly to your plants. That contraption in your picture, although creative, wouldn't be all that effective. You'd kind of be building a mini-sun w/ 8 CFL's placed so closely together. Thing is the sun is millions of miles away, not 3 or 4ft above your plants. If you have an outside garden and the one end of it is 20ft closer to the sun, it's an insignificant amount given how far away the sun is. If you place that space ship shaped light fixture above your plants you will probably waste a lot of light outwards and give more direct light to plants very close to the lights. If you use shop lights you can hang them very close to your seedlings - I'm talking 6in away - and when they start to sprout you can raise the height. Since the fluorescent bulbs stay relatively cool you can keep them very close to the plants w/o damaging them. This also focuses the light downward onto your plants which reduces waste.

Something like this - http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...g/frank007.jpg
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The problem with the OP's setup is that he may be exceeding the socket's wattage rating, depending on number, and types of lamps.
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Don't plants need "grow lights" when doing this? Not much of a green thumb so I don't really know for sure. Not sure if CFL's come as grow lights.
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I have some basic questions about lightning that I'm setting up.
I decided to start growing my own vegetables throughout the year.
Thanks a bunch
Basic answers:
http://hightimes.com/read/dummies-guide-growing
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Will you be able to smoke these "vegetables"?
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Growing vegetables, more like a grow-op.
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Don't plants need "grow lights" when doing this? Not much of a green thumb so I don't really know for sure. Not sure if CFL's come as grow lights.
Yes, but usually it is a fluorescent fixture with "Grow bulbs", and it is usually to get the seeds to start, before you plant them outside.
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do i use cfl watts or equivalent incandescent watts to determine?
Use ACTUAL watts, rather than equivalent incandescent watts, for the purpose of energy use, amps, and extension cord ratings.

The only purpose of the incandecent equivalent watts if to offer a comparison of light output to incandescent. For example, a CFL that uses 23watts produces similar light output to an incandescent using 100watts. Actual power use by the CFL will be 23watts. Eight CFLs, each consuming 23watts, will use a total of 8x23...less than 200watts total. This sounds well within the rating of a single outlet and extension cord to me.

BTW, I like the idea of shop lights.

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