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pman6 06-04-2013 12:43 AM

electrical box in my garage. What is it?
 
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There are two boxes in my garage which were installed by the previous owner, who was an electrician.

One is a circuit breaker box for garage electricals, and the one of the right is I dunno. It has a transformer block sticking out, so I can't make a cover for it. It just sits there exposed.
What is that transformer box for? Is it dangerous to leave it exposed like that?

Also, there is a twisted strand ground wire going from the bottom of the breaker box directly to the outside, into the dirt.
Is that dangerous to leave it exposed like that too?

TarheelTerp 06-04-2013 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pman6 (Post 1194831)
Is it dangerous to leave it exposed like that?
Is that dangerous to leave it exposed like that too?

It isn't idea and should be covered eventually...
but it'll wait a few days for you to find or make something.

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What is that transformer box for?
Where do those wires lead? That'll tell the tale.

philS 06-04-2013 01:03 AM

Distribution box for low-voltage AC circuits? Like 24 V AC? Just a wild guess as I can't say I've ever seen one like this. Also don't recognize the panel on the left -- fuse or breaker?

frenchelectrican 06-04-2013 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by philS (Post 1194835)
Distribution box for low-voltage AC circuits? Like 24 V AC? Just a wild guess as I can't say I've ever seen one like this. Also don't recognize the panel on the left -- fuse or breaker?

The panel on left is Pushmatic aka Bulldog breakers.

They are good but hard to find parts plus those breakers are not " slip on " they are actual bolt on breaker type.

Merci,
Marc

pman6 06-04-2013 01:29 AM

so what about that ground wire exposed on the outside?

My tenants have kids who might touch it

philS 06-04-2013 01:38 AM

Yup, figure out where they lead (if you can). Do you maybe have low voltage garden lights? Also would help if you checked voltage of those thin wires coming off the distribution bar beneath the transformer. Rules for 24 V AC are a lot looser than for 120 V.

frenchelectrican 06-04-2013 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pman6 (Post 1194843)
so what about that ground wire exposed on the outside?

My tenants have kids who might touch it

simple ., dig up a small trench and push the ground wire down deeper and use the homemade stake* to hold the bare conductor down.

Merci,
Marc

* something like what they used to hold the tent or something simauir to that.

ddawg16 06-04-2013 02:48 AM

With that many wires, sort of rules out door bell....

I'm thinking home grown alarm system. The 24V might be for door/window sensors.

Philly Master 06-04-2013 05:51 AM

lighting switches old skool .....

TarheelTerp 06-04-2013 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pman6 (Post 1194843)
so what about that ground wire exposed on the outside?
My tenants have kids who might touch it

Turn off the power. Tenant kids will be safe.

Are we to guess at what the wires are for?
I'll put a nickle on electric fence.

busman 06-04-2013 06:46 AM

I'm going to take a wild guess that it's a well pump controller. They frequently have a LV control system when there is more than one pump.

Mark

bobelectric 06-04-2013 11:29 PM

My favorite jobs are hearing the former occupant was an electrician in a steel mill or a mine. That's what the work always looks like.

bobelectric 06-04-2013 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by frenchelectrican (Post 1194838)
The panel on left is Pushmatic aka Bulldog breakers.

They are good but hard to find parts plus those breakers are not " slip on " they are actual bolt on breaker type.

Merci,
Marc

The pushmatic breakers are readily available here ,mfg. by American Breaker Co. They also make replacement FPE breakers.

frenchelectrican 06-05-2013 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bobelectric (Post 1195444)
The pushmatic breakers are readily available here ,mfg. by American Breaker Co. They also make replacement FPE breakers.

Yeah for the common size up to 60 amp two pole pushmatic's but once you get over 60 amps then it will change the game a bit it will be much harder to find them espcally with P2100 breakers which I have order it from time to time but not very often.

Note: just becarefull with P2100 they actually come in two verison one is convetnail main breaker set up and branch circuit breaker due the bussbar tab are differnt between the two's.

Merci,
Marc

pman6 06-05-2013 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TarheelTerp (Post 1194873)
Are we to guess at what the wires are for?
I'll put a nickle on electric fence.


nope. not a guessing game.

Just thought you guys might have seen something like this before, and wondering if I need to make a cover for it.


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