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Old 06-05-2012, 07:21 AM   #16
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Always remember, EGC trumps gfci protection everytime!

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I don't want to get into a debate over why it is required, but I think you are off on your thinking.

Look at where GFI protection is mandated...where water is likely to be...near sinks, in a basement, in a bathroom, counter tops, outside.
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I don't want to get into a debate over why it is required, but I think you are off on your thinking.

Look at where GFI protection is mandated...where water is likely to be...near sinks, in a basement, in a bathroom, counter tops, outside.
Yeah silly, and all receptacles too... Because the ground pin can be compromised on the appliance they are using. Think about it, if an appliance has a working EGC then there can never be a shock hazard because the OCP will trip. Now, we plug in a faulty tool with a ground pin compromised, the OCP device won't trip and we have a serious hazzard. Make sense?
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Nope, a perfect example is a bad underground. GFI protection isn't required for all undergrounds, and I have been to numerous service calls where the hot was damaged and didn't trip the breaker, but if the wire was GFI protected the GFI would trip because it would sense the imbalance.
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Nope, a perfect example is a bad underground. GFI protection isn't required for all undergrounds, and I have been to numerous service calls where the hot was damaged and didn't trip the breaker, but if the wire was GFI protected the GFI would trip because it would sense the imbalance.
So you think every underground service should be gfci protected?


Take this example and logically give me an answer.... If I hard wire a piece of equipment in a gfci located area, I can omit the gfci protection. But if I choose to use a plug and receptacle, now it must have gfci protection, this only applies to 15 and 20 amp circuits mind you.
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