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wease 12-05-2006 11:52 AM

Electical planning for remodel
 
I'm wondering if there is a good standard to follow for wiring in a remodel. I will be remodeling a 2500 sf area. It will have 3 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms, living room, kitchen, breakfast nook, dining room, and some hallways. The lower level is also 2500 sf and is finished.

Do you group rooms by lights and outlets and then work your way back to the panel? For instance, all bedroom outlets to one circuit; all bedroom lights to one circuit; all living room, dining room and hallway lights to one circuit; all living room, dining room and hallway outlets to one circuit; all kitchen lights to one circuit; all kitchen outlets to one circuit; then add circuits for individual major appliances. ?

Wonder if they'll make me replace the panel. Just starting my idea phase on the remodel so I know what to expect.

wease 12-06-2006 08:03 AM

Any electrical people here?

mdlbldrmatt135 12-06-2006 08:41 AM

It really depends ont he potential load on each circuit. if it's minimal. (no major Electronics.) you could do all the Lighting for a room or 2 (depending on load). the Baths will need GFCI breakers..... and so will anything within so many feet of the Kit. Sink........ A set of Plans would hel lay it out. It also really depends ont he Service coming in and how many spaces are in the current panel. or are you planning on Upgrading the Service?

wease 12-06-2006 09:36 AM

I've got 400 amp service right now and it runs on breakers that you can't buy anymore. I can find them on EBay. I like the panels I have. House was built in the mid 60's.

mdlbldrmatt135 12-06-2006 10:47 AM

The easiest option would be to just run a sub panel off the main. (with newer breakers) as far as Circuits it all depends on the loads involved. A Avrage bedroom would be ok with 1 20 amp outlet circuit.

joed 12-06-2006 05:18 PM

Some you group by rooms. Some you group by loads.
Bathrooms need to be on separate circuits to bathroom only.
Bedrooms need to be on AFCI so group them by rooms.
Kitchen counter small appliance circuit are only for kitchen counter.
Separate circuits for fridge, microwave.

Lights are often kept separate from receptacles in case you overload a receptacle the lights stay on.
Point loads like window AC or computer equipment often get separate circuits.

wease 12-07-2006 11:19 AM

When we blow the fuse in our bathroom outlet, all of the light and outlets blow in our bedroom...sucks at night. Would it be ok to run a 15 amp ciruit for bedroom lights for a set of three bedrooms and another 20 amp AFCI circuit for bedroom outlets for the same set? Or do the bedrooms need to have their own ciruits? I would think not.

Would it be ok to put your living room outlets and lights on the same 20 amp circuit? Or I could combine the dining room and living room together and give the group a 20 amp outlet circuit and a 15 amp light circuit.

Am I thinking in the right direction?

KUIPORNG 12-07-2006 12:23 PM

lights on its own circuit(s) with no outlet has the advantage of you can predict the maximum load and therefore you can install maximum number of device base on the breaker's limit. if you mix outlet with light, the code limit you have certain number of devices on the circuit only... regarding how many circuits and how they distributed to what room(s) is really a personal preferences...

joed 12-07-2006 06:48 PM

Works fine except if your town has adopted the AFCI rules for the bedrooms the lights also need to be AFCI protected.

sootybuttercup 12-08-2006 06:17 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think in Canada the lights in bedrooms need to be part of the AFCI circuit. Anyone know for sure?

joed 12-09-2006 10:36 AM

I think lights do need to be AFCI. Smokes must not be be AFCI.


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