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Old 01-25-2012, 07:13 AM   #1
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First time poster so please be gentle with me . Currently redecorating the house and have asked an electrician to install a couple of extra sockets. Wife just called with news that the house does not have an earth and he therefore wants 1000 to earth sockets. My concern is that we have just completed redoration on a few of the rooms and the last thing I want is him spoiling any of that. My question for all you electricians is, a) is an earth required b) is there an alternative to running wiring c) if wiring is the only way, does everything need rewiring ie sockets, light fittings etc.

As background, house is pre 1900s but has been rewired approx 10 years ago, new fusebox etc. All plug sockets are 3 pin.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

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Do you live in the uk? And do you mean grounding?

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Yes. Only just realised this is a US forum. Doh!
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Things will work without earthing, although more safely with earthing. Things with 2 prong plugs will not work any differently or more safely if you added or converted to 3 prong receptacles. It is not necessary to modify built in light fixtures.

You can add earthing wires (equipment grounding conductors in the U.S.) where none were before no matter where you live.

First you want to check to be sure that a 3 prong receptacle does not have the neutral and earthing prong holes connected to each other behind.

If there are no earthing wires, L1000 is not unreasonable to do a good job of adding them. However in many places around the world including the U.S., temporary earthing wires (will last many years) can be added for much less although the result won't be as good looking from the outside.
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house is pre 1900s but has been rewired approx 10 years ago...
new fusebox etc. All plug sockets are 3 pin.

Currently redecorating the house and have asked an electrician to install a couple of extra sockets ... Wife just called with news that the (new electrician asserts that the) house does not have an earth and he therefore wants 1000 to earth sockets.

My concern is that we have just completed redecoration...
My concerns would be on a whole other level.
Things like fraud and malfeasance come to mind.

Call the electrician from ten years ago in to defend his work...
and get a second (independent) opinion as well.

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You need to find out what is missing.

1. Earthing wires from receptacles to breaker panel (load center)
2. Earthing wire (grounding electrode conductor in the US) from panel to water pipe
3. Earthing wire (also a GEC) from panel to buried metal rod.
4. All of the above?

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