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Old 08-03-2010, 02:07 PM   #1
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After weeks of hard work, worst fear realized. Drywallers had only begun when informed me had tore up the wires in a metal box mounted on the wall 8 feet up. Wires had been pushed back all the way in. The 6" of out of wall stripped wire badly damaged with insulation off in many places. One 3-way splice torn apart. As there's about an inch and a half of wire still in casing and undamaged, I think I'll be able to go in and make splices again, but will be tight. Is this normal for this to happen? This light is one of two wired in parallel and also part of a three way switch setup for access at two doors.

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Is this normal for this to happen?
Doesn't sound like "Due Diligence" or "Duty of Care" to me. Deduct your labor & material from their payment or maybe your insurance company will/can pry the money out of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_of_care


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I'm having a bit of trouble reading your post, but it seems like you said that this damage was done when they first began rocking the walls. That would have been the perfect time for them to stop and you to have the wiring re-pulled.

Are you saying that the drywall is all up now? Either way, the drywallers are responsible for this. You might be able to salvage the wiring, but it's not going to be right for a new installation. You shouldn't have to suffer for someone else's mistakes.

When I do damage I either fix it myself or pay someone else to fix it. I've lost money on jobs because mistakes my men have made, it's all part of the game. Don't let the drywallers off the hook.
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If you do try to fix the wires and don't have enough slack to get wirenuts on, you can get push-on connectors like this:

http://www.idealindustries.com/prodD...v=0&l1=push-in

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If you do try to fix the wires and don't have enough slack to get wirenuts on, you can get push-on connectors like this:

http://www.idealindustries.com/prodD...v=0&l1=push-in


Sure, that will work, but we are talking about a new installation. The wires are required to be 6" long from the point of entry and 3" outside of the box. A new installation should be done properly and code compliant.
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Quick! Don't pay the drywallers any more money yet.

It may be necessary to restring some new wires and they ought to pay for that.

Some holes will have to be made in the new drywall to strijng wires and that reduces any credit for the portion of drywall work they did.

There will be a time delay getting this fixed and they will have to reschedule at their own expense. They don't get to rebid because of a new time schedule.
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In the future always pack the boxes with a square of cardboard. That pushes the wires to the back of the box.

This stuff happens--open the drywall and fix it.---then call the drywallers back--Mike---
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Since it appears only the insulation is damaged, would taping the wires work and ceep me compliant with the 6" rule? I suspect not, but thought worth asking.
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Heat shrink is a much better material than tape to use to "repair" damaged insulation on conductors.
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As long as the conductor itself is not damaged, I agree with the heat shrink tubing.
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Heat-shrink tubing (yeah, it's on a broom, but easy to see):

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Make sure that it's rated for this voltage.
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Your ideas prodded me a bit. Last evening pulled box from opposite side which was insulated but not yet rocked over. Repaired a romax connector which had actually popped a screw from the pull. Gained 6" on one wire by re-stapling in wall but little on the other. This morning informed the lead contractor who wasn't yet aware of the issue. One of his guys went in through the back and bored new holes including one diagonal one through couple studs. Gained the necessary wire to be code-worthy. Thanks for the help.

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