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Old 05-04-2012, 11:09 PM   #16
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Panel looks 10-15 years old to me.

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Old 05-04-2012, 11:47 PM   #17
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Thanks for all who have responded trying to pinpoint the problem. I do not plan to fix it myself if it is beyond my very basic know how. I appreciate the words of caution. I'm more interested in knowing how to locate the problem.

1. is the breaker for the dryer near the top of the box?

No, near the bottom. I wouldn't think there would be water damage now b/c
I enclosed a porch adjacent to the same wall, but could've been happening, and i will check for this. But, i did inspect it and there are remnants of a mouse in the box, though doesn't appear recent. Plus we have had cats for 4 years here. Good mouse catching cats. Though they obviously couldn't get to one that high up.

2. I assume the "small fuse panel" was a kitchen subpanel that did not affect the wiring to the dryer?

I also assume this, the dryer is on the main panel, not the subpanel.

3. can you visually inspect the wire all the way from the panel to the dryer? if the receptacle blew up the wire may also be damaged.

I can see it only so far....the receptacle is 3 feet off the floor, so I can see where it goes up to the receptacle. It travels about 15 feet from the box to its turn up into the first floor.

4. if you can see the wire, what is the gauge: it should be at least 10-3? take a picture or write down what is on the side of it.

There is no marking on this wire the whole way. I don't know how old that makes it, but it does have that white plastic on the outside. Its fairly thick, 1/8 inch.

5. Is the dryer fed from the main or the sub panel? Have you noticed anything else out? Did you meter the wires coming to the main breaker?

It is fed from the main panel. The two furnace breakers, directly across from the dryer breaker, were tripped. And the pellet stove breaker was tripped and popped off the bus, not adjacent to the dryer. Now, this reminds me that the new 30 amp breaker for the dryer was difficult to seat in the box, though i got it in. I had turned off the furnace breakers b/c i was unseating them trying to push in the dryer breaker, but i thought i had switched them on again, plus, we haven't been without hot water in the now 48 hours since the dryer kicked out.
Does meter the wires mean test voltage? Should i test the voltage coming into the house?

6. What is the amperage draw on the dryer?

It says inside the door - 28 amps, 60 hz

7. If you've got full voltage there then you have a wire issue, perhaps a screw through it from the new drywall?

Not likely a screw through it b/c I used furring strips in that room on top of the old plaster and wouldve been screwing into those... small possibility i guess.

I will upload another picture this evening.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.
Yeah Id suggest having the inside of that panel sorted out while youre at it
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Panel looks 10-15 years old to me.
hmm really, i haven't seen anything looking like that in any building i've worked on that wasn't at least 20 years old. Either way it's sloppy, they just changed our code to allow for wire nuts in panels but the panel has to be treated like a box and a box fill calc has to be done for it to be up to code. Most inspectors in Ontario still don't like to see it. They'd rather a jb installed outside the panel and fresh wires run into the board.
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And what do you think the issue is with the wire nuts?

This could be from a panel change.
Ive got no problem with wirenuts inside of a panel,still legal last I heard anyway.
Its the way things are done inside the panel that get me
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Old 05-05-2012, 02:12 AM   #20
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The more I look at the second photo I can see there is some issue with netural conductors and I think it will be much wiser to call in electrician to take a look at this due there are other neutral screws look like rusted or corroded so there will be other issue will arise.

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