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Old 04-06-2013, 08:33 AM   #16
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I don't see those on the 'depot' website, don't they sell them at the big box stores? All they have are the 20-50 amp inlets that cost a small fortune.
You consider $50 for a complete 30A generator inlet "a small fortune"???

FOR THE LIFE OF ME I have NO idea why you would want to use a suicide cord for this. Just to save a couple of dollars to avoid using a male inlet?

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Might as well use a couple extension cords. Not really compliant, but much better than the OP's plan.
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Use the leviton inlet........ $10 on Amazon. You won't find them in the hardware store.

http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-4937-W...keywords=inlet


I used this for 5 years on my shed and it worked out great until I finally had electricity ran to it. It was wired up to interior outlets and a light switch.

Just make sure you don't go over the rated wattage for the extension cord your using. Keep in mind length/voltage drop. Although it shouldn't be a problem with a few lights, a few fans, TV, radio, etc......MAKE SURE IT IS PLUGGED INTO A GFCI OUTLET which SHOULD already be installed outside your house.

Maximum wattage for cords-
16 gauge- 1275w
14 gauge- 1500w
12 gauge- 1875w

If your still don't want to spend the money on a $10 inlet, then mount a power strip on the inside and call it a day. At least its still 99% safer than your idea.......
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Maximum wattage for cords-
16 gauge- 1275w
14 gauge- 1500w
12 gauge- 1875w

Is a 14 gauge cord not good for 15A, thus making it capable of carrying 1800W?
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Is a 14 gauge cord not good for 15A, thus making it capable of carrying 1800W?
Usually they are downgraded in wattage, because of the thick insulation and lighter connections.

I've run a 1500w heater on a 12 gauge 100ft extension cord (rated for 1875), and the plug got hot enough to start warping over 30 minutes.
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Yea like others have said just get a power inlet box. I got mine which is a 30 amp 4 prong for $45. Yea that might be alot in your case but atleast then it will be wired up correctly and you wont need that suicide cord you had said about.
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Also consider distance. The longer the cord, the more the voltage will drop. This can cause the wire to overheat if you pull too much current through it. As in, a device that might work just fine on a 6' cord will cause a 100' cord to overheat and catch fire.

And be SURE the outlet from which you're pulling the power is covered by a GFCI and that you check it regularly.

Me, I really wouldn't put live electricity in a kid's playhouse. You never know what sort of nonsense the kids would get into with the plugs. Not just your own kids, but guests/friends/whatever. Your insurance company won't take kindly to your half-assed setup when one of the kids gets killed or injured....
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Wow, I certainly got a reaction to this post. But I wonder sometimes if people read the whole post before replying. "<*(((><", I understand what you were saying now.

1. I GET THE MESSAGE and will be using the male inlet suggested by several folks.
2. I didn't know about the 3-prong inlets, couldn't find them at the big box store.
3. It is a temporary connection that will only be used under my supervision. And past the inlet will be hardwired same as a house, so no more dangerous than the kid sticking a fork in an outlet in my kitchen.
4. It will power, at most, some rope lights for decoration and maybe a light and radio inside. Low watts, not a heater or Meth lab or anything like that.
5. Will use proper size cord from GFCI outdoor outlet on house.
6. Repeat - I GET THE MESSAGE. Thanks to those who posted useful information.
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I think we all read your post. It was just that bad/dangerous of an idea lol. Are you really going to hang out w/ your kids in the tree house any time the power is on? If so, maybe I should give you more credit for being such a good dad. Otherwise, yes its more dangerous than a kid sticking a fork in your outlet. Kids unplug stuff all the time. If they unplug the double male ext cord they could be in for a world of hurt. It doesn't matter if it's powering a radio & rope lights or a space heater & a window a/c unit - there's still the same amount of power in the line.

Bottom line, I'm sure I'm not alone in saying I'm glad you understand why you shouldn't do it. My concern is why you thought it might be ok in the first place, regardless if you never knew about a male inlet plug.
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If they unplug the double male ext cord they could be in for a world of hurt.
You are assuming they unplug the end that is hot (the other end obviously can't matter), and that the GFCI doesn't work?

When I was eight my uncle took me to a house he was building. There were two wires sticking up out of the ground. Being eight I had to touch them together. There was a huge flash and the wires just disappeared. I presume they were 3000v or something like that. In retrospect, I am surprised I didn't have some kind of burn.
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1. I GET THE MESSAGE and will be using the male inlet suggested by several folks.
Excellent.


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2. I didn't know about the 3-prong inlets, couldn't find them at the big box store.
There is FAR more out there than what can be had at a big box store.


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3. It is a temporary connection that will only be used under my supervision. And past the inlet will be hardwired same as a house, so no more dangerous than the kid sticking a fork in an outlet in my kitchen.
WRONG! MUCH more dangerous. The whole "only under my supervision" thing is a complete joke.
Just because you keep telling yourself this does NOT make it so.


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Everyone posting to this thread posted useful information.
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You are assuming they unplug the end that is hot (the other end obviously can't matter), and that the GFCI doesn't work?
It is a very safe assumption. And even with a GFI you will still get a shock, which for a small child can still be dangerous.



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I presume they were 3000v or something like that.
Nope, not even remotely close. It was either 120V or 240V.
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Lots of things seem like cool ideas. And sometimes people post replies that seem overly critical. In both cases there's room for interpretation.

But if your cool idea goes wrong then a child likely dies or suffers unnecessarily injuries.

The thing is, nobody here wants an "I told you so" situation. Neither should you. Move on to something less problematic for the kids. Really.
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You are assuming they unplug the end that is hot (the other end obviously can't matter), and that the GFCI doesn't work?
You're right, I'm assuming that kids in a tree house could unplug the end connected at the tree house. Unless of course the OP sat his kid(s) and their friends down and read this thread to them. If that's the case, we have no worries because kids always listen. My bad.
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That cord will be powering the kids in no time.

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