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damage311 09-04-2009 07:02 PM

Don't know anything about electrical work but need help.
 
First off this is my first post so I am hoping I get some kind of help. I recently bought my little girl a 5,050 btu window unit. The first two weeks everything worked fine, but recently the breaker keeps popping in her room. I am more than sure it is the airconditioner that is creating this problem because when it is off it doesn't pop. I am not sure what I have to do as far as fixing this. Is there a way to seperate some of the wires that are connected to the breaker and add another one. Please help me out with this. I am really in need of help and want to see if I can do it myself. Thanks

jerryh3 09-04-2009 07:10 PM

What else is on when the breaker trips?

Scuba_Dave 09-04-2009 07:15 PM

That can draw up to 10a while running/starting up
Does it have any info on it regarding power requirements ?
What size circuit is it on, 15a 20a ?

damage311 09-04-2009 07:17 PM

I got her t.v. on, her wii connected but not on, and got two other outlets that r in the living room that I use which are the t.v. and the satellite receiver. They are all connected to one breaker.

damage311 09-04-2009 07:24 PM

The circuit does not say but it has a 20 on the knob. I am figuring it is a 20 circuit breaker. The airconditioner says that it uses a 15 amp circuit breaker.

Scuba_Dave 09-04-2009 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by damage311 (Post 323802)
Is there a way to seperate some of the wires that are connected to the breaker and add another one. Please help me out with this. I am really in need of help and want to see if I can do it myself. Thanks

AC on 1st floor, 2nd floor?
Attic or basement in house to run wires?
Are there multiple wires going to the breaker?

damage311 09-04-2009 07:38 PM

We don't have a 2 floor we have 1 floor. The wires are running through the attic. Not sure what you mean by multiple wires going to the breaker. I went outside removed the cover and saw one white and one black wire connected to the 20 amp circuit.

Scuba_Dave 09-04-2009 07:42 PM

I'd run a new 20a circuit & outlet for the AC

damage311 09-04-2009 07:45 PM

o.k. ill see if I can get someone to do it. So the answer is to much power on that one breaker.

biggles 09-04-2009 07:52 PM

if the AC starts with nothing else on that breaker drawing on it it will run, but as you load the breaker to that 20 amps and the AC goes to restart again it will trip.the amp draw on any AC is 10X the rating for a mill-secondthen it balances out to 5 to 7 amps...what is the actual amp rating of the unit not the breaker size.

Speedy Petey 09-04-2009 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by damage311 (Post 323815)
I went outside removed the cover and saw one white and one black wire connected to the 20 amp circuit.

I think he is describing an AFCI Breaker.
What is being described should NOT trip a 20A breaker. I have two computers, a ton of peripherials and a 10k window unit on in my home office. Not once has a breaker tripped. In fact, I have never tripped a breaker in my house.


Damage, how new is the house?

I have to honestly say, someone who has no clue about electric should not be going into a live panel the way you did.

Speedy Petey 09-04-2009 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by biggles (Post 323827)
the amp draw on any AC is 10X the rating for a mill-secondthen it balances out to 5 to 7 amps...

Which is why breakers are designed the way they are. They take this inrush current into account.

Yoyizit 09-04-2009 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by damage311 (Post 323802)
the breaker keeps popping in her room.

On AC compressor startup [you have to listen for the difference in sound when the compressor is running]?
How long does it hold?
Do you have a clamp-on ammeter?
Does she put a hair dryer on the same outlet or breaker?

It could also be something in the process of failing; an appliance or the breaker itself, or a loose connection to the breaker.

damage311 09-04-2009 08:41 PM

Speedey, we have been living here for 11 months the house is fairly new and the wiring is all new and I do agree, I should't be doing this myself but I am here to learn not hurt myself. Yoyizit, I have nothing else on that outlet except the A/C and I don't have a meter. How can I tell if it is the unit itself. The first two weeks I had it, everything was running fine.

Speedy Petey 09-04-2009 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by damage311 (Post 323850)
Speedey, we have been living here for 11 months the house is fairly new and the wiring is all new......

This is almost definitely on an arc fault breaker.
I would bet it is nuisance tripping rather than tripping due to an overload.


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