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03-11-2008, 09:40 PM
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Does this look right
I just finished installing this subpanel when I stumbled across this forum.
The panel is in a "tool shed" that I built against the side of my house. Total run is 50' panel to panel and I used (3) #6 THHN along with a #8 for the ground.
I have (2) 240 volt circuits - one is a 30 amp that runs to a disconnect a couple feet away with 8-3 for my compressor and the other one is a 20 amp that runs to a dedicated outlet for my welder.
I also have (2) 20 amp circuits for a couple of outlets for my wood working tools.
The blue ent at the top left is in case I want to run a circuit for lights in the future.
I had to add that grounding lug, the panel did not come bonded to the pane. I'm located in S Cal
Thanks for the help
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03-11-2008, 09:47 PM
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Does this look right
Looks real neat, only the panel is real squished.
One thing I see wrong though. I see four cables entering the panel, and six neutrals landed. This means you landed the GFCB neutrals and the circuit neutrals on the neutral bar.
The circuit neutrals for the GFCB's go on the breakers, not the bar.
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03-11-2008, 09:51 PM
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Does this look right
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Originally Posted by Speedy Petey
One thing I see wrong though. I see four cables entering the panel, and six neutrals landed. This means you landed the GFCB neutrals and the circuit neutrals on the neutral bar.
The circuit neutrals for the GFCB's go on the breakers, not the bar.
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Yep, the 12-2 NM's go to the neutral bar and not the GFI breakers... You need to change that, but you'll figure it out after you try to turn the breakers on...
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03-11-2008, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by chris75
..., but you'll figure it out after you try to turn the breakers on... 
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03-11-2008, 10:11 PM
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Does this look right
I was under the impression on a sub panel, that the ground buss has to be attached to a gnd electrode. From the pic looks like its only grounded at the main panel via the green wire. I was told to run a sub box, I needed a 4 wire, from the main panel, then one more #8 bare, from the gnd buss in the sub panel out to a gnd electrode.
What am I missing here. Or have I been surfing these boards to long this past week LOL
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03-11-2008, 10:17 PM
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Does this look right
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Originally Posted by mr500
I was under the impression on a sub panel, that the ground buss has to be attached to a gnd electrode. From the pic looks like its only grounded at the main panel via the green wire. I was told to run a sub box, I needed a 4 wire, from the main panel, then one more #8 bare, from the gnd buss in the sub panel out to a gnd electrode.
What am I missing here. Or have I been surfing these boards to long this past week LOL 
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yeah well hopefully its in the disconnect thats not in the picture..
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03-11-2008, 10:22 PM
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Does this look right
This is the first time I have used the breaker style GFCI, I usually use the outlet style .
Sure enough, I went out and pulled the breaker and saw were the "LOAD NEUTRAL" is suppose to connect - completely missed it before. Instructions, who needs instructions.
I will get it squared away tomorrow and post another pic.
Thanks again for your help
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03-11-2008, 10:31 PM
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Does this look right
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Originally Posted by Git
This is the first time I have used the breaker style GFCI, I usually use the outlet style .
Sure enough, I went out and pulled the breaker and saw were the "LOAD NEUTRAL" is suppose to connect - completely missed it before. Instructions, who needs instructions.
I will get it squared away tomorrow and post another pic.
Thanks again for your help 
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So where is your disconnect and grounding electrode?
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03-11-2008, 10:32 PM
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Does this look right
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr500
I was under the impression on a sub panel, that the ground buss has to be attached to a gnd electrode. From the pic looks like its only grounded at the main panel via the green wire. I was told to run a sub box, I needed a 4 wire, from the main panel, then one more #8 bare, from the gnd buss in the sub panel out to a gnd electrode.
What am I missing here. Or have I been surfing these boards to long this past week LOL 
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This is not a detached structure. NO ground rod is needed or wanted.
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03-11-2008, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Speedy Petey
This is not a detached structure. NO ground rod is needed or wanted.
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I only read the tool shed part, missed how he built it next to the house... my bad....
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03-11-2008, 10:33 PM
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Does this look right
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Originally Posted by Git
The panel is in a "tool shed" that I built against the side of my house.
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IMO against the house is not a separate structure. It is attached to the house.
No bad Chris. I do it all the time.
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03-11-2008, 10:42 PM
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Does this look right
And here I go thinking I learned something.
BUT if the "shed" were 20 ft away he WOULD be pounding in an 8ft rod huh? Just say yes so I can pretend I'm learning lol.
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03-11-2008, 10:43 PM
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Does this look right
Yes.
You are learning and doing well.
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03-11-2008, 10:44 PM
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Does this look right
Thank GOD Ive been on these forums reading for 3 weeks lol...
Have good one!!! 
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03-12-2008, 12:24 AM
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Does this look right
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BUT if the "shed" were 20 ft away he WOULD be pounding in an 8ft rod huh? Just say yes so I can pretend I'm learning lol.
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Only is the shed had metal piping to it...right?
Nice job on the panel. It is configured differently from any one I have ever seen. Usually the give a bit more room for the wiring.
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one is a 30 amp that runs to a disconnect a couple feet away with 8-3 for my compressor
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I don't believe you need a disco if the compressor is in the line of sight.
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